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09/20/2004 12:44:25 AM · #1 |
I saw so many especially in smoke...
How can you shoot or do a post shoot fix to have so very black (or so very white) background while your object isn't ruin and is clear and lighten?
To me the smoke was a specifically hard one for that...
I would appreciate any tip or trick here, cause I really have no clue... :-(
Message edited by author 2004-09-20 00:45:01.
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09/20/2004 12:58:19 AM · #2 |
I've found that the best way is to make sure the main object is really well lit and then change the levels in photoshop. I can't give you my example cause it's in the current challenge :)
Edit - I found an example
This was taken indoors on white paper. The paper was quite yellow but I adjusted the levels so it was white. It helped that the frogs were a strong colour.
Message edited by author 2004-09-20 01:00:09.
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09/20/2004 01:00:16 AM · #3 |
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09/20/2004 01:01:47 AM · #4 |
If you have something that is bright and spot meter on that it will darken the background and then you can adjust if need to to make the dark darker. It is easy to achieve in the right light. i.e. seagul in the sun spot meter on his white and the background is black.
I did nt do any editing in this but sharpen, crop and resize.
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09/20/2004 01:03:41 AM · #5 |
For a white background - light your background very well to the point of being almost overexposed and normally lit separate from whatever you are shooting.
For a black background - dont let any light fall on the black background. |
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09/20/2004 02:10:08 AM · #6 |
I saw a story once in a magazine (no, I don't remember) about floral studio photography.
The photographer suggested setting up your subject (in this case, a vase of flowers) in front of an open door to a dark room.
In the room, drape black cloths over anything that may reflect light, and black out any windows. He/She/It managed to obtain some pretty black backgrounds with that method. |
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09/20/2004 02:34:18 AM · #7 |
Background of black velvet, try to avoid light falling on it.
Light your subject really well and expose for your subject.
Your background will then get black, or close to black.
If not totally black, open up levels in photoshop and move the left slider to the right.
Message edited by author 2004-09-20 02:35:18.
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09/20/2004 01:06:14 PM · #8 |
Thanks a lot for your helpful and interesting answers !
I will try to shoot my smoke entry again and see if I can get any better results regarding it's background.
Well, I should at least learn something from all this... right? :-)
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09/20/2004 01:13:46 PM · #9 |
also the further the background is from the subject, the easier to avoid light spilling onto it.
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09/20/2004 01:15:56 PM · #10 |
All I did to achieve the black background in my smoke entry was to shoot it against a black background with no ambient light whatsoever. I used bounced flash to light the smoke. Shooting in total darkness was quite interesting and I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to do it without the help of my trusty 50mm lens! |
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09/20/2004 01:23:20 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Jinjit: Thanks a lot for your helpful and interesting answers !
I will try to shoot my smoke entry again and see if I can get any better results regarding it's background.
Well, I should at least learn something from all this... right? :-) |
Looks like you used black paper, which is still quite reflective. Black velvet is much less reflective.
Also, because of the angle of your light, it bounces right back. Try a light from the side or from the back, it will illuminate the smoke, but not your background.
And move your background further away, it makes it easier to keep it in the dark. |
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