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06/14/2014 10:38:53 AM · #1 |
I'm curious how many dSLR users here are planning on going completely (or have gone) to a mirrorless system.
An informal poll. Feel free (of course) to include what you chose and why! Benefits versus regrets? (And did you REALLY sell off the dSLR, or keep it just in case!)
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06/14/2014 10:49:40 AM · #2 |
| I've only JUST started thinking about acquiring one - haven't even done my research yet! But certainly curious. If the quality/functionality are comparable, I think I would seriously consider switching over, but keeping a dSLR system as backup. |
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06/14/2014 10:58:20 AM · #3 |
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06/14/2014 11:02:46 AM · #4 |
im intrigued. i dont have the need for an advanced AF system.
if canon were to make a FF mirrorless system. i'd definitely take a look, especially if they used a software shutter. i love to be to get sync speeds above 1/160 without filters shooting wide open in the sun. |
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06/14/2014 11:05:29 AM · #5 |
| I have not switched over completely. I bought a Fujifilm X100s in February thinking I would continue to use the dSLR as my primary camera and use the X100s when I wanted to travel light and was too lazy to lug the bigger camera. I have been thrilled with it. Turns out I use X100s primarily. I still use the dSLR when I want to be able to go wider or need a little more reach, but it sits idle much more than I was expecting. |
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06/14/2014 11:20:02 AM · #6 |
| We do have an RX100, which does beautiful work. For myself, I just updated to the 6D, so no, I am not going mirrorless any time soon. That said, I do think that mirrorless is the way of the future. AF systems will evolve, as will EVFs, to the point that there will be no excuse for retaining the mirror... well, none but nostalgia. That day is still a ways off, however. |
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06/14/2014 11:25:32 AM · #7 |
I got a Sony NEX-7 a few months ago to supplement my work. It's fun to use and very light. However it doesn't have the precise control I need for set shots that I get from my DSLR.
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06/14/2014 11:52:34 AM · #8 |
| I absolutely love my DSLR. No desire to look further. Maybe when I am really, really old I'll reconsider if lugging the DSLR gets problematic. For now, lugging is part of its charm (that's what love will do to you). |
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06/14/2014 12:11:43 PM · #9 |
| I have considered it, but i need to wait a few years since I just got my 70D this year. Plus this will give Canon a chance to fine tune their mirrorless bodies before i jump on board. |
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06/14/2014 12:24:08 PM · #10 |
I bought a Fuji X100S about three months ago. I loved it so much that I bought a Fuji XE1 to compliment it. I have since built a pretty big kit around my Fuji system. I now have the Fuji 18-55, Rokinon 8mm fisheye, Zeiss touit 12 and 32mm, and my favorite lens ever the Fuji 56mm f1.2. I'm waiting for the Fuji 55-140 f2.8 to come out to complete my kit. I also have a lens adapter so I can use all my Nikon glass on my Fuji.
It would cost me 4 times as much to build a comparable kit for my FF Nikon. I still have my D700 and plan on keeping it forever mostly to shoot my kids' sporting events.
I am absolutely in love with my Fuji system. It has reinvigorated my love for photography. No more leaving the house and leaving the camera because I don't feel like lugging it around. Now I can take my full kit and it weighs about the same as my D700 and one lens. And if I wanna go real light I just grab my X100S and I know I'll get dslr quality shots with a 10th of the hassle. |
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06/14/2014 04:37:34 PM · #11 |
| I made the switch last year with Olympus OM-D cameras and I'm really happy with it, specially with the performance and also with the size and weight of my new gear. |
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06/14/2014 05:17:32 PM · #12 |
| Totally switched a couple of years ago. never looked back. |
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06/14/2014 05:38:15 PM · #13 |
When I bought my Olympus PEN E-PL1 I stopped carrying my Canon 7D around and very rarely take it out any more. My feeling was that once I upgraded to the OM-D E-M5 I would probably give up on my DSLR altogether. However I've got quite shaky hands and I've discovered that the much-vaunted stabilisation system doesn't seem to be doing the job for me and that I quite often get camera shake, even at relatively high speeds. The added weight of the 7D combined with stabilised lenses seems to reduce the camera shake more effectively for me.
I plan to keep the mirrorless system for my day to day use but if I buy more specialised lenses like the fisheye and macro lenses that I crave, they will probably be for my DSLR.
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06/14/2014 05:58:39 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Neil:
I'm curious how many dSLR users here are planning on going completely (or have gone) to a mirrorless system.
An informal poll. Feel free (of course) to include what you chose and why! Benefits versus regrets? (And did you REALLY sell off the dSLR, or keep it just in case!) |
would likely never do it |
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06/14/2014 06:49:23 PM · #15 |
| You will have to pry my DSLR with mirror from my cold dead hands.... I have no intention of ever switching. |
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06/14/2014 08:01:47 PM · #16 |
I haven't gotten rid of the DSLR yet, but I see the time coming. I still use the D800 for specific projects where I want the resolution or pixel quality, generally projects that I expect to result in a big, detailed print. I also use the DSLR when I want to go longer and wider than the 28-100 equivalent RX100, and faster than the slow RX100 lens, because the DSLR is the tool I have right now.
For stuff that fits within the parameters of what the RX100 can do, though, I use the RX100. I'm getting ready to sell my 24-120 f/4, because I'm not likely to ever use it again. I'm much more likely to pull the RX100 out of my pocket and start shooting with that than I am to put the 24-120 on the camera.
If I look at what I'm doing, I'm slowly selling off the big Nikon lenses one by one. I expect I'll come to a tipping point within the next year or two where some mirrorless camera is good enough for what I'm doing, and I just make the switch entirely.
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06/14/2014 09:13:27 PM · #17 |
Not completely mirror-less but for the everyday walking around without expecting anything, I would like something lighter. Wearing the old Canon AE-1 around town makes the 7D look so fat! hehe. Pondering the idea of a Fuji digital cam to replace the AE-1. But it won't replace the DSLR for those planned or highly intended shoots, or it could be used as a 2nd body.
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06/14/2014 09:45:31 PM · #18 |
I got a Nikon V1 when they came out - well it was a replacement for a beloved travel camera that my husband killed in some lake in the Boundary Waters. (I was curious about mirrorless and I figured I wanted a little upgrade from the P&S that died.)
I loved, loved the fast shooting. I got some wonderful action shots of my husband in his rollerblade marathon. Also, I loved the 6.7 - 13 mm lens. I talked about selling it, but haven't been able to let it go yet - there is a 300 mm lens coming out that has me intrigued. (I have an Alaska trip coming up next year - although carrying my dslr and the Nikon 1 - hmmm - seems a bit much).
But the V1 is killer annoying to try and do any manual settings IMO. If I'm going to use the V1, I'm going to stick on auto and shoot away. It's done what I wanted it to do, but it couldn't replace a dslr. |
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06/14/2014 09:58:14 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Jules1x:
I got a Nikon V1 when they came out - well it was a replacement for a beloved travel camera that my husband killed in some lake in the Boundary Waters. (I was curious about mirrorless and I figured I wanted a little upgrade from the P&S that died.)
I loved, loved the fast shooting. I got some wonderful action shots of my husband in his rollerblade marathon. Also, I loved the 6.7 - 13 mm lens. I talked about selling it, but haven't been able to let it go yet - there is a 300 mm lens coming out that has me intrigued. (I have an Alaska trip coming up next year - although carrying my dslr and the Nikon 1 - hmmm - seems a bit much).
But the V1 is killer annoying to try and do any manual settings IMO. If I'm going to use the V1, I'm going to stick on auto and shoot away. It's done what I wanted it to do, but it couldn't replace a dslr. |
One reason I love the Fuji system is because of the manual dials. Wanna shoot manual? Just turn the dials to the shutter speed and aperture you want and bam, you're shooting manual.
Fuji reminds my of shooting with my old film cameras and it's just so much more fun to shoot right now. |
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06/14/2014 10:21:23 PM · #20 |
| That Fuji X100S looks wonderful. Ahhh eventually... (Although side note - the one camera shop remotely near me - 90 miles - only carries Canon and Nikon. I like to support local shops, and thought they are probably primarily a photo developing shop I thought it was still too bad their selection was so limited. I suppose the 'professionals' in the area shoot either Nikon or Canon DSLRs - but even P&S are only Nikon and Canon.) I suspect I would have chosen something other than the Nikon V1 had they carried either Fuji or Sony. And I have struggled a bit to decide how I would handle future purchases if I just didn't want a Nikon or Canon. |
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06/14/2014 11:08:44 PM · #21 |
IMO, mirrorless is the wave of the future. Unfortunately, the big players in the DSLR field don't have their act together yet. I'm not really sure why, as even the Apple iPhone 5S obviously doesn't use a mirror, has near-instant focusing, and 100% coverage of the image taken. Now, obviously, that isn't comparing Apples to apples, but I get so frustrated with my Canon 60D in live view mode hunting for something to focus on. Even the cheap VHS, VHS-C video cameras from 10 years ago could focus faster than the later model DSLRs.
No doubt the big players will get there eventually, but may very well need a nudge (or strong shove) from emerging competition that isn't so mired in (D)SLR tradition |
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06/14/2014 11:40:32 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Jules1x:
That Fuji X100S looks wonderful. Ahhh eventually... (Although side note - the one camera shop remotely near me - 90 miles - only carries Canon and Nikon. I like to support local shops, and thought they are probably primarily a photo developing shop I thought it was still too bad their selection was so limited. |
Tell them what you want, with enough lead time to provide it, and the internet-researched price you're willing to pay, and you might be surprised what they can/will special order for you. |
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06/14/2014 11:49:12 PM · #23 |
| Good advice Bear - I hadn't considered that. I will remember to inquire next time I'm down there. |
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06/15/2014 05:36:04 AM · #24 |
As some of you may know, I do get through quite a bit of camera gear from MF digital backs to disposables.
What I have found (for myself and my needs) is that no single camera can 'do-it-all'. thus I have settled (yeah right) for a combination of rangefinder and mirrorless. I do still have a D40 because I use Canon (sigma) lenses on my Black Magic Cinema Camera, but if i'm honest it does not get a lot of use, it is heavy and bulky to lug around all that gear (for me personally) The Leica can fit in a small compact bag with stunning results. Obviously this is not a great option for sports but I do not shoot sport. I do enjoy going to the Zoo or shooting wildlife in the wild and I have found that the leica with R lenses can do a good job but then it gets heavy again lugging the old 180mm R lens and adapters etc etc. I recently purchased the Fuji XT1 and must say the results are stellar and the lenses that I have used are fast and light. I remember the days of lugging a 1DsIII with 100-400 / 24-70 / and a selection of primes around was common place for me but now I can get the same (if not better) results from a smaller, lighter bag. As I say THIS IS BETTER FOR ME, I have a very dodgy back condition and the reduction in weight has really helped me, I love the Fuji sensor and the range of X lenses are getting interesting with the 56mm f1.2 producing images as good as my old favourite Canon 85mm f1.2 but sooooo much lighter, my whole camera bag weighs less than the Canon 85mm.
Some people will never move away from DSLR system, and why should they, I really enjoyed using it myself, Nikon, Canon or Pentax. I have shot with Hasselblad digital backs, phase one systems, Pentax 645 and they are fabulous they really are, if I was in Fashion 24/7 getting good money I may well build a studio again... but I'm not. I traded bags of heavy quality glass and amazing bodies and lighting system (I kept a single profoto & beauty dish) for a Leica system and have not looked back. I have purchased the Fuji to offer a different system that can utilise my Leica lenses and give me a 'Noctilux' flavour (56 f1.2, really) without having to have a kidney removed to pay for it.
There are many types of mirrorless camera systems out there, Sony have the excellent A7, Olympus have the MFT system, Fuji have the X system, Canon and Nikon are nibbling away at it, Leica have a version too. The reasons to stick or change are personal really because IQ (unless you are shooting for billboards) is marginal, trust me I have used them all, each system will offer something slightly different the major being CCD Vs CMOS Vs Foveon etc etc. I have always prefered the images from CCD sensors, the Hasselblad CFV16 was a personal favourite as was the Leica R-DMR both very old systems with many faults, mainly battery issues.
IMO I think they way Fujifilm have embraced the mirrorless system is wonderful, as I get older and more fussy about what I use and demand excellent results, I think the Fuji system works for me, Mirrorless is an excellent system that is getting better with every release and, like it or not, as technology is the fastest tool in the box I think we will see some amazing camera systems in the future. I do understand that a lot of Professionals will never turn to mirrorless for their work however, I do know a few that have and without regret. When Fuji first released the X-Pro-1 I jumped on it but the lack of lenses at the time killed it for me, but now of cause that is not the issue. I await a nice fast tele-photo lens to replace the current 55-200 (excellent lens BTW) maybe Fuji need to look towards the excellent Olympus line-up for inspiration if they not already doing so.
Long live the mirrorless sytem, although not everyones cup of tea, it is certainly a very welcomed system for me. One day I might be able to afford a Noctilux for my M240 but as of now I am happy to have a system that gives me what I want and that I can carry around without issue all day.
Sorry for writing a book here LOL. |
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06/15/2014 11:59:48 AM · #25 |
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