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05/07/2014 05:12:54 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jab119:
very true, when it comes to photography and or art, personal feelings should not sway you on your interpretation of the image to judge it. |
Why shouldn't they? Don't you want the viewer's complete and honest response to your image? |
my point was more towards someone who has strong personal feelings against a certain subject voting poorly because they don't like the subject matter, vs. the technical aspect of the photo.
I really want to keep politics and arguments out of this, but my point being is that many people are anti-gun, and they could just go in and give every gun photo a 1 and a negative comment just because they are anti-gun.
My hopes are that even though people might be anti-gun, they can see past that and vote on the technical aspect of the photo and not let their feelings sway the vote because their personal feelings are against the subject matter |
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05/07/2014 05:30:49 PM · #27 |
| Next challenge: Guns without Politics and Arguments |
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05/07/2014 05:35:24 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by jab119:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jab119:
very true, when it comes to photography and or art, personal feelings should not sway you on your interpretation of the image to judge it. |
Why shouldn't they? Don't you want the viewer's complete and honest response to your image? |
my point was more towards someone who has strong personal feelings against a certain subject voting poorly because they don't like the subject matter, vs. the technical aspect of the photo.
I really want to keep politics and arguments out of this, but my point being is that many people are anti-gun, and they could just go in and give every gun photo a 1 and a negative comment just because they are anti-gun.
My hopes are that even though people might be anti-gun, they can see past that and vote on the technical aspect of the photo and not let their feelings sway the vote because their personal feelings are against the subject matter |
I can't see people doing that when the challenge is actually 'guns'. |
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05/07/2014 06:01:30 PM · #29 |
| I thought we weren't allowed to enter pictures of our guns? |
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05/07/2014 08:43:43 PM · #30 |
| for me personal feeling will always sway my interpretation of an image. Art is all about feelings and little to do with technicals imo. What the image is saying will influence my voting for sure. So being anti guns if the image is promoting or glorifyng guns I will have a negative response to the image regardless of how good it is technically. I would lean towards a score around 3, then I would look at the technicals and if they are good would bump it up to a 5 maybe. I understand not everyone will think this is fair but i can not seperate my emotion when voting on a highly emotional topic. I am sure those who are pro guns will lean with a bias the other way so it should all balance out in the end. |
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05/07/2014 08:55:14 PM · #31 |
My politics lead me away from this challenge, my participation in the beat your average tourney pull me back towards it.
If I follow my instincts and enter an anti-gun image, half the people will cheer and give me a 10, the other half will scream and give me a 1. If I suck it up and find a gun to shoot, it will be other way around. Either way I get a 5, and either way I lose both challenges. Thinking I may just sit this one out.
Or maybe I'll just go with my first instinct and shoot the gnus. |
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05/07/2014 08:57:17 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
... I'll just go with my first instinct and shoot the gnus. |
Yes, no gnus is good gnus ... |
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05/07/2014 08:58:10 PM · #33 |
you guys take this shit way too seriously.
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05/07/2014 09:15:02 PM · #34 |
| can we lock this thread before this thread gets out of hand? |
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05/07/2014 09:31:33 PM · #35 |
Good timing I will be in America next week, lol!!!
But I won't be entering! |
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05/07/2014 09:52:13 PM · #36 |
Semper Fi!
I might break some rifles (Guns) out for this one. |
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05/07/2014 09:54:44 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by sempermarine:
Semper Fi!
I might break some rifles (Guns) out for this one. |
I've had some success here with gun shots.
Message edited by author 2014-05-07 21:57:44. |
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05/07/2014 10:32:53 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by jab119:
can we lock this thread before this thread gets out of hand? |
This isn't even close to the lockability threshold, actually :-) |
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05/07/2014 10:38:40 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
My politics lead me away from this challenge
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My politics bring me closer to this challenge. I hope the weather holds out so that I may take the shots I want....
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05/07/2014 10:46:57 PM · #40 |
Wikipedia: "A gun is a normally tubular weapon or other device designed to discharge projectiles or other material."
So make fruit, not war.
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05/07/2014 10:48:21 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
My politics lead me away from this challenge
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My politics bring me closer to this challenge. .... |
And that, my friend, is what makes this country great. |
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05/07/2014 11:34:18 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by jab119:
can we lock this thread before this thread gets out of hand? |
This isn't even close to the lockability threshold, actually :-) |
well then... I sure hope those anti-gun folks don't vote poorly for the simple fact that they don't like guns. If you dont like guns and are going to vote poorly I suggest you don't vote in this challenge. |
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05/07/2014 11:56:57 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by jab119:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by jab119:
can we lock this thread before this thread gets out of hand? |
This isn't even close to the lockability threshold, actually :-) |
well then... I sure hope those anti-gun folks don't vote poorly for the simple fact that they don't like guns. If you don't like guns and are going to vote poorly I suggest you don't vote in this challenge. |
It doesn't MATTER: it's pretty much equal across the board. The gun-lovers and gun-haters will balance each other out in the end. |
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05/08/2014 12:20:27 AM · #44 |
| your right, I just had a moment there |
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05/08/2014 08:27:55 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by jab119:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jab119:
very true, when it comes to photography and or art, personal feelings should not sway you on your interpretation of the image to judge it. |
Why shouldn't they? Don't you want the viewer's complete and honest response to your image? |
my point was more towards someone who has strong personal feelings against a certain subject voting poorly because they don't like the subject matter, vs. the technical aspect of the photo.
I really want to keep politics and arguments out of this, but my point being is that many people are anti-gun, and they could just go in and give every gun photo a 1 and a negative comment just because they are anti-gun.
My hopes are that even though people might be anti-gun, they can see past that and vote on the technical aspect of the photo and not let their feelings sway the vote because their personal feelings are against the subject matter |
I can't see people doing that when the challenge is actually 'guns'. |
Why not? People do it for nudes. |
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05/08/2014 08:35:03 AM · #46 |
| I'm gunna enter this one! |
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05/08/2014 09:04:14 AM · #47 |
| Even if I'm strongly one of the anti-guns party, I wouldn't vote down an image for having guns in it (I mean in regular challenges). Sempermarine, as he showed in this thread, used guns a few times in his images and none of them, as far as I remember, was a way to convey a certain message. This challenge is about guns, so my vote will follow both my taste and my 'political' belief. |
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05/08/2014 09:18:30 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by jab119:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jab119:
very true, when it comes to photography and or art, personal feelings should not sway you on your interpretation of the image to judge it. |
Why shouldn't they? Don't you want the viewer's complete and honest response to your image? |
my point was more towards someone who has strong personal feelings against a certain subject voting poorly because they don't like the subject matter, vs. the technical aspect of the photo.
I really want to keep politics and arguments out of this, but my point being is that many people are anti-gun, and they could just go in and give every gun photo a 1 and a negative comment just because they are anti-gun.
My hopes are that even though people might be anti-gun, they can see past that and vote on the technical aspect of the photo and not let their feelings sway the vote because their personal feelings are against the subject matter |
I can't see people doing that when the challenge is actually 'guns'. |
Why not? People do it for nudes. |
If the challenge subject was nudes I would not vote on it, however when a nude image shows up in a regular challenge I usually ding it pretty hard (always feel like the photo is appealing to the theory of "sex sells" and is going for high views, etc...).
With that thought in mind, if people are strongly anti-gun, then perhaps they shouldn't vote on this challenge. ??? |
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05/08/2014 09:23:48 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Kelli:
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by jab119:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by jab119:
very true, when it comes to photography and or art, personal feelings should not sway you on your interpretation of the image to judge it. |
Why shouldn't they? Don't you want the viewer's complete and honest response to your image? |
my point was more towards someone who has strong personal feelings against a certain subject voting poorly because they don't like the subject matter, vs. the technical aspect of the photo.
I really want to keep politics and arguments out of this, but my point being is that many people are anti-gun, and they could just go in and give every gun photo a 1 and a negative comment just because they are anti-gun.
My hopes are that even though people might be anti-gun, they can see past that and vote on the technical aspect of the photo and not let their feelings sway the vote because their personal feelings are against the subject matter |
I can't see people doing that when the challenge is actually 'guns'. |
Why not? People do it for nudes. |
If the challenge subject was nudes I would not vote on it, however when a nude image shows up in a regular challenge I usually ding it pretty hard (always feel like the photo is appealing to the theory of "sex sells" and is going for high views, etc...).
With that thought in mind, if people are strongly anti-gun, then perhaps they shouldn't vote on this challenge. ??? |
Just FYI, I wasn't talking about me. But I do remember in the past when a nude challenge came up people talking about how they were going to low vote because they don't "like" nudes because... insert reason here. As a matter of fact, there have been other instances of that with various subjects like cat haters, kid haters, etc. So, I'm just saying it will happen. |
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05/08/2014 11:24:05 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Just FYI, I wasn't talking about me. But I do remember in the past when a nude challenge came up people talking about how they were going to low vote because they don't "like" nudes because... insert reason here. As a matter of fact, there have been other instances of that with various subjects like cat haters, kid haters, etc. So, I'm just saying it will happen. |
Yeah, but let me reiterate, it doesn't MATTER. Overall scores may drop, but the relative scores should stay the same. The only time the anti-whatever blowback ought to matter is in a more general challenge, where a gun or a nude might get scored lower in comparison to less-polarizing images. |
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