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12/13/2013 06:51:51 PM · #1
Just like passing these on because they are pertinent and interesting.

//www.mikeboatman.com/photography-blog/abuse-of-sovereign-immunity-is-not-a-crime-or-is-it/#comment-2058

Some of the comments seem to think he is being steamrolled and may have a case after all. Sucks for him either way since it sounds like he will have to do a lot of work to see any renumeration.
12/13/2013 09:56:13 PM · #2
Isn't it illegal to use "any" photographs with owner's watermark on it... commercialy or not? The watermark is there for a reason...
12/14/2013 02:07:06 PM · #3
so basically everyone is screwed, doesn't matter cus there is always a loop hole or someone with bigger pockets
12/14/2013 02:24:35 PM · #4
wow...
12/14/2013 02:46:46 PM · #5
Originally posted by JulietNN:

so basically everyone is screwed, doesn't matter cus there is always a loop hole or someone with bigger pockets


Yup, and this paragraph pretty much sums it up:

"Usage of your creation and designs that you sell to your clients are not 100% within your control nor your clients regardless if you copyright register your work and do all of the appropriate protocols to safeguard it. This is true regardless if you are a graphic artist, illustrator, filmmaker, recording artist or photographer, provided that, you’re relying on copyright law for these exclusivity rights."

The only thing we CAN guarantee your client is that WE give them 100% exclusivity. The minute they post/share the image anywhere, it's up for grabs.
12/14/2013 03:11:44 PM · #6
Regardless of sovereign immunity and the copyright statutes, the photographer should be due just compensation under the "takings" provision of the Fifth Amendment:

Originally posted by US Constitution:

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


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12/14/2013 03:51:20 PM · #7
Don't you think his lawyer would know this...?
12/14/2013 04:21:28 PM · #8
That's freakin' awful!
12/14/2013 04:28:41 PM · #9
Originally posted by tanguera:

Don't you think his lawyer would know this...?

I would ... I can see where they'd want immunity from a copyright infringement suit where maximum statutory penalties (up to $250,000) might apply, but it seems clear (to me) that while they might have the right (under eminent domain) to use the picture, it clearly has monetary value and as such I think reasonable compensation should be due.
12/14/2013 04:42:26 PM · #10
What irritates me beyond belief about this case (besides it being UNCA which is about 20 minutes from my house), is that if a *student* had violated a copyright this blatantly, there would be grounds for failure/expulsion. hypocrisy, indeed. :(
12/14/2013 04:55:25 PM · #11
Yes, that's right, Paul. If I understand "eminent domain" correctly, it applies to an entity when they appropriate private property for the "greater good" (i.e. a city appropriating someone's home to build a freeway through it). Eminent domain supersedes "private" property laws, and protects the appropriator from lawsuits. But in this case, it doesn't benefit the "greater good" but just the University. Regardless, the University should not be exempt from paying for it (which is not the purpose of ED), since typically, eminent domain requires the appropriating party to pay fair market value for the goods.

Message edited by author 2013-12-14 16:57:48.
12/14/2013 05:48:40 PM · #12
People always get this wrong. Change your name to Walt Disney first, then add your watermark.
12/14/2013 06:57:20 PM · #13
Originally posted by yanko:

People always get this wrong. Change your name to Walt Disney first, then add your watermark.


Already tried. That name is already copyrighted :)
12/14/2013 07:16:23 PM · #14
Walt and Mickey have more to do with copyright law, than most people realize. Each time the copyright limit is about to be reached, Disney goes to congress to get hem to extend the protection. Mickey is still worth lots of money, and as long as he his, the duration of copyrights beyond the creator's lifetime will continue to grow.
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