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Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

10/15/2013 01:23:43 PM · #1

Please NOTE: After lengthy discussion and debate, the former blue ribbon image has been disqualified for adding features. This was not an easy decision for us, but given that the milk splashes were cloned in to make them appear more numerous, we felt the rule against added features was violated.

We would like to extend our apologies to the new 3rd place image which was denied a place on the front page, but is not less deserving of the honour of the yellow ribbon in this challenge.

Message edited by author 2013-10-15 14:43:28.

LN13

Canon EOS-60D

10/15/2013 01:29:06 PM · #2

A.) It's a shame, because the image would have been just a good without the extra splashes.

B.) Isn't adding things to the photo that weren't there in the original a clear-cut rules violation? Why would there be a "lengthy discussion and debate"?

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/15/2013 01:37:06 PM · #3

Originally posted by larryslights:

Well, we like to give leeway, and we wanted to be sure what we were seeing was an addition, and not just a good crop and editing, for example.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/15/2013 01:44:07 PM · #4

Suggestion: 3 or 4 day statute of limitations on DQing any entry and if the SC can't come to a consensus within that time, the entry stands.

Seems pointless to even continue to debate long after the challenge winners drift off the front page.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/15/2013 01:57:14 PM · #5

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

A lovely idea that doesn't address two of our main challenges:

1. We need more SC to reach a statistically significant consensus (quorum)
2. If we let bad entries stand, they make bad precedents so we must avoid this as much as possible.

eta: spelling

Message edited by author 2013-10-15 14:13:56.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/15/2013 04:00:05 PM · #6

Originally posted by frisca:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Suggestion: 3 or 4 day statute of limitations on DQing any entry and if the SC can't come to a consensus within that time, the entry stands.

Seems pointless to even continue to debate long after the challenge winners drift off the front page.

A lovely idea that doesn't address two of our main challenges:

1. We need more SC to reach a statistically significant consensus (quorum)
2. If we let bad entries stand, they make bad precedents so we must avoid this as much as possible.

Number 1 is something that should be easily rectified. In lieu of that, assign a senior SC the final word and just make the call one way or another. If for whatever reason, the time expires and a decision was not made, note it on the entry that the time had expired without validation and let it stand. Bad precedents have occurred on several occasions in the past and it's a lesser evil than DQing an image long after it rotated off the front page.

In reality I'm fairly apathetic about the whole thing, but am in a pot-stirring mood today. ;-)

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/15/2013 04:07:13 PM · #7

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I'm fairly apathetic about the whole thing, but am in a pot-stirring mood today. ;-)

Safer since y'all voted to make the pot legal, but be careful -- apathy is one of the known side-effects ... ;-)

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/15/2013 05:09:01 PM · #8

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
I'm fairly apathetic about the whole thing, but am in a pot-stirring mood today. ;-)

Safer since y'all voted to make the pot legal, but be careful -- apathy is one of the known side-effects ... ;-)

Who cares. :P

jomari

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

10/15/2013 06:39:17 PM · #9

So why not fix the challenge page to show the new placings? As it is it is just showing the red and a yellow ribbons and there isn't any evidence of them getting promoted other than an absence of a blue.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

10/15/2013 07:33:17 PM · #10

Originally posted by jomari:

Recalculations have to be done by Langdon -- SC can't do them, and it would take a re-calculation for the ribbons to change. Hopefully it can happen soon, but we can guarantee nothing.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

10/15/2013 10:39:56 PM · #11

Originally posted by frisca:

1. We need more SC to reach a statistically significant consensus (quorum)

So hire some :-) There are plenty of us willing and eager to serve.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

10/16/2013 12:27:14 AM · #12

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by frisca:
1. We need more SC to reach a statistically significant consensus (quorum)

So hire some :-) There are plenty of us willing and eager to serve.

We don't at all control that.

tanguera

Nikon D750

10/16/2013 10:56:49 AM · #13

"Milk splashes"???? Do you mean the sunbeams?

Garry

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/16/2013 10:59:56 AM · #14

Originally posted by tanguera:

"Milk splashes"???? Do you mean the sunbeams?

Sunbeams is replacing milk splashes which wad DQ'd.

tanguera

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

10/16/2013 11:11:33 AM · #15

Originally posted by Garry:

Originally posted by tanguera:
"Milk splashes"???? Do you mean the sunbeams?

Sunbeams is replacing milk splashes which wad DQ'd.

I'm confused...

LN13

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

10/16/2013 11:28:56 AM · #16

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by Garry:

Originally posted by tanguera:
"Milk splashes"???? Do you mean the sunbeams?

Sunbeams is replacing milk splashes which wad DQ'd.

I'm confused...

This is the DQ'd image:

The one above with the sunbeams is the new 3rd place.

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

10/21/2013 03:09:44 PM · #17

Just a reminder: Don't this challenge deserves a blue?

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

10/21/2013 03:17:58 PM · #18

Originally posted by hajeka:

Just a reminder: Don't this challenge deserves a blue?

tanguera

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

10/21/2013 03:30:46 PM · #19

Originally posted by larryslights:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by Garry:

Originally posted by tanguera:
"Milk splashes"???? Do you mean the sunbeams?

Sunbeams is replacing milk splashes which wad DQ'd.

I'm confused...

This is the DQ'd image:

The one above with the sunbeams is the new 3rd place.

Thanks. My brain has become silly putty....

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

12/03/2013 11:56:44 AM · #20

hopefulcrafty1 has basically NO access to DPC. It's explained in this thread which she created when she was still able to read the forum. Who is in charge of all this stuff? A girl being charged for two years and not getting access at all? Her and other people try to contact the SC and Langdon, and NO RESPONSE... I don't get it at all.

Message edited by author 2013-12-03 12:47:05.

P-A-U-L

Canon EOS R6

12/03/2013 12:04:05 PM · #21

Hey great minds thing alike:)

I think it is becoming a joke really. I could understand if the site was free but we pay good money (not a huge amount I admit) and should expect a decent standard of service. He should just close the site if he does not have the decency or capacity to offer the customer service we deserve. The site still doesn't work on the iPad - come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/03/2013 12:09:20 PM · #22

I really, really wish I didn't pay $45 in October or whatever month that was. I got more space on my account other than paying for one year. But the situation here is just pathetic. Before I used to laugh at it but now it's just way too much to handle. Did Langdon disappear somewhere in Europe or what? I wish I could get my $45 back because I'm leaving this site as soon as the TPL2 finals are over. Unbelievable.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

12/03/2013 12:51:30 PM · #23

Seems like that guy -

scooter88 - who's been waiting on his yellow ribbon for almost two months now, stopped participating in DPC life in October. I totally don't blame him... And it looks like he used to be really active in challenges. Sad.

Message edited by author 2013-12-03 12:52:01.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

12/03/2013 01:00:36 PM · #24

Originally posted by beatabg:

What's going on with Langdon anyway? 10/15... it's gonna be 2 months soon and Kobba still has a red ribbon instead of the blue one he deserves, and the person who should have yellow ribbon didn't get anything

Also, not related to the subject, the TPL2 finals are about to start in 2 days and one of our teammates hopefulcrafty1 has basically NO access to DPC. It's explained in this thread which she created when she was still able to read the forum. Who is in charge of all this stuff? A girl being charged for two years and not getting access at all? Her and other people try to contact the SC and Langdon, and NO RESPONSE... I don't get it at all.

FWIW, I bought a gift membership this week, and I don't have a clue where it is, or how to use it. I just followed the instructions, and DPC now has my money, but I don't have a clue what to expect from them for it.

Seriously, am I suppose to receive a coupon code or something?

I KNOW Langdon will make all of this right, eventually anyway, but it's very clear that something does need to change.

Message edited by author 2013-12-03 13:02:00.