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08/16/2013 09:52:48 AM · #1
I just installed Windows 7 on one of my older loaded computers for my son to take to college.

I had an 77 GB SSD drive in there which I used to speed up data access, but I decided to do a SSD clean install for him.

I booted from the Win 7 Ultimate DVD and installed, all went fine.

But as I was cleaning up the older disks in Disk Management, I noticed something odd...

The old C drive main partition shows "Healthy (System, Active, Primary)".

The new SSD boot drive shows "Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary).

The Windows and the other Windows system folders are all on the SSD now. There is still 44 GB free, more than I expected.

Which is what worries me a bit...why doesn't the new C partition say "System"? Does my system depend on that in any way even after a clean install? My assumption was that it would not, but I've never done an SSD system install before...so I'm checking before I remove that partition!

Any other SSD system advice from those who did it? I just reassigned the documents and other folders to another drive so he doesn't run out of space. I'm tempted to do that with Programs too, using symbolic links, but that means programs would not benefit from the faster load from the SSD. While I certainly do, I hope he doesn't have more than 20-30 GB of programs!
08/16/2013 10:19:21 AM · #2
Neil,
Just looking at the configuration on my work laptop... it's not truly an SSD drive, it is a "hybrid" with both solid state and rotating components. The boot partition shows (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary) and the other partition on that drive shows (System, Active, Primary).
So I think that your situation is normal, and that there is no dependency on the old partition. BTW, with SSDs, make sure that you maintain about 30% free space in order for wear leveling to work properly.
08/16/2013 02:17:22 PM · #3
Thanks Fritz. Good tip...I didn't think about that. I will probably need to move the program files folder, but maybe I'll talk to him about it first. He's going to install MS Office, and his music transcription and editing software, so maybe he just won't have as many files as me. :)

I haven't done a clean Windows install in a few years...went well but now I have 130 or so updates to apply. Failed at some point and reverted itself, so now I have to do it in batches of 20-30 just to isolate it and/or maybe avoid the problem.

Geesh...whatever happened to fix rollups?!?!?!

Windows 7 runs pretty nicely on the SSD. And my son lucks out...the machine, which only has 6 GB of memory (I have 16 in my newer one, and will do 24 or 32 next time), has about 3 TB of drives in it...and he's used to a laptop with about 1/2 GB.

ETA: In hindsight, I bet you that service pack 1 near the end of the list would have solved my problem and afterwards gotten rid of the other patches!

Message edited by author 2013-08-16 14:28:00.
08/16/2013 03:35:06 PM · #4
Neil,
Sounds like the media you installed from was pre-SP1. Unfortunately I don't see a way to get a "trial" version installed from a download. That would have circumvented most of the update mania. Manually installing SP1 is probably a good idea, that will take care of everything up to and including SP1. FWIW, I recently ran an install using media with SP1 and it still had quite a few updates to apply.
08/16/2013 05:39:31 PM · #5
Doing them in smaller batches worked fine. System is up and running nicely. The new graphics card, since I had pilfered this one when my newer graphics card broke, is an Asus 210 Silent Geforce, doesn't score very well in the Windows Experience index, but the rest of the system rocks.

Processor 7.2
Memory 7.2
Graphics: 4.4
Gaming graphics: 5.7
Primary Hard Disk: 7.6

My newer Extreme Edition system (well two years old now), doesn't do as well at least against the SSD:

Processor 7.8
Memory 7.8
Graphics: 5.2
Gaming graphics: 6.3
Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

But there's a regular hard drive in there, and the primary isn't even the fastest one there. I have an SSD for data again, and several WD blacks, but the system disk is the one from the factory (HP).
08/16/2013 05:58:13 PM · #6
Interesting! Here's another data point:

Processor: 7.6
Memory: 7.7
Graphics:6.4
Gaming Graphics: 6.4
Primary Hard Disk: 5.9

The above is a Dell E6530 laptop dating from November of 2012 with a CORE i7-3720QM processor @ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB of RAM, and both the on-board Intel 4000 and an nVidia NVS 5200M graphics adapter. The HDD is a "hybrid" SSD/rotating drive, and interestingly does not score any higher than your older system with the stock rotating drive. But from an end-use perspective, the fact that frequently used data is stored on the SSD portion means it really does boot more like an SSD-powered system, and app launch times are typically quite fast as well.
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