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08/07/2013 05:48:19 PM · #1 |
Here's the deal:
I just sold my D300 and I'm putting my D5100 for sale, and with a few more money I think I can reach for the D600.
I'm keeping my D700 anyway, as I need a fast camera for actin photos and 12 mpx is plenty for weddings also.
But did anyone "upgraded" thir D700 for the D600. Does it "feel" like an upgrade? I realize that the body quality is a notch down, but I don't plan on killng my cameras with a hammer or something during a shoot out.
In terms or ergonomics I'm afraid it is some downgrade as the button layout is a bit more "consumer" and less pr minded. Do you feel this while your are shooting? Do you find yourself taking the eyes of the camera to change parameters like ISO or other?
I would love to have some opinions please.
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08/07/2013 06:16:35 PM · #2 |
I thought about it. I had one d700 already and wanted another full frame to pair with it for weddings (to replace my d300) . I briefly considered the d600 but, for me, it really didn't do anything more than i wanted from the d700 and, as you say, in many ways it was a step down. I think the d700 is pretty much a perfect camera and i have it set up just how i want. Not being able to set up a d600 in the same way (it not having certain buttons) was a big thing for me. Plus i like the solid build and feel of the d300/700's. I considered the d800 for longer but, again, it didn't seem to be enough of an upgrade for what i wanted. I just got another lightly used d700 in the end. I'll see what's about in a few years when i next upgrade and maybe get the d800 then.
Oh, but i did get an Olympus OmD e5 to use occasionally as a third camera at weddings and just as a day to day camera to have on me.
Message edited by author 2013-08-07 18:20:45. |
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08/07/2013 06:25:49 PM · #3 |
The real upgrade is in terms of high ISO - I can say that it's better than D700, mostly because it's newer.
It could be a less solid body, but it works very good. The only problem I can see is with sensor dust, but it seems like they found a solution for newer bodies. |
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08/07/2013 06:41:02 PM · #4 |
Hi ISO is very good on the D600. The down side is the limited focus points. I find having more megapixels is also a good thing, despite conventional wisdom, because you get very nice detail. But if you're not afraid of the size or cost, I'd say go D800.
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08/08/2013 04:42:13 AM · #5 |
You have all hitted the sweet spot on your comments.
Iso performance is a must for me, so that's a good thing. Bur ergonomically...the D800 would make more sense... My mind is running like craky...and so does my wallet :)
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08/08/2013 04:56:17 AM · #6 |
| I think you have to think what you need it for. I do weddings and tend to use two or three primes during the day so it makes sense for me to have two identical cameras that i can use at the same time seamlessly. The d600 would have been no good for that. The d800 would have been good but high iso is the one area where i can see an upgrade worth while and the d800 doesn't seem to be a huge jump up. Sure, all those mega pixels would have been great for some portraits and group shots but they weren't a dealbreaker. The d600 also doesn't seem to be that much of a huge increase in high iso performance over the d700. If it was on the level of the d3s or something that would have been great. |
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08/08/2013 05:04:56 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by rooum:
I think you have to think what you need it for. I do weddings and tend to use two or three primes during the day so it makes sense for me to have two identical cameras that i can use at the same time seamlessly. The d600 would have been no good for that. The d800 would have been good but high iso is the one area where i can see an upgrade worth while and the d800 doesn't seem to be a huge jump up. Sure, all those mega pixels would have been great for some portraits and group shots but they weren't a dealbreaker. The d600 also doesn't seem to be that much of a huge increase in high iso performance over the d700. If it was on the level of the d3s or something that would have been great. |
It's hard to say what is a huge jump. IMO there's an improvement (I've used D700 and the limit for me was ISO4000, not more). With D600 last week, during a dance show (soooooo dark!) I frequently used ISO 5000 and 6400. Lately I'll upload a few pics from that show. |
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08/08/2013 05:21:46 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Alexkc:
It's hard to say what is a huge jump. IMO there's an improvement (I've used D700 and the limit for me was ISO4000, not more). With D600 last week, during a dance show (soooooo dark!) I frequently used ISO 5000 and 6400. Lately I'll upload a few pics from that show. |
Yes, i guess a lot of this is subjective and down to personal preference anyway so it's hard to judge. I tend to use 6400 as my top limit on the d700 (i use auto-ISO a lot) but then i often go for a grainy film like result either in black and white or colour. I'll often reduce noise and add some more pleasant grain. It's not often that it gets up to that high an iso though.
Message edited by author 2013-08-08 05:22:28. |
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08/08/2013 05:30:55 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by rooum:
Originally posted by Alexkc:
It's hard to say what is a huge jump. IMO there's an improvement (I've used D700 and the limit for me was ISO4000, not more). With D600 last week, during a dance show (soooooo dark!) I frequently used ISO 5000 and 6400. Lately I'll upload a few pics from that show. |
Yes, i guess a lot of this is subjective and down to personal preference anyway so it's hard to judge. I tend to use 6400 as my top limit on the d700 (i use auto-ISO a lot) but then i often go for a grainy film like result either in black and white or colour. I'll often reduce noise and add some more pleasant grain. It's not often that it gets up to that high an iso though. |
Man, your last free study entry is superb! I don't like auto ISO, but I admit that with the last full frame cameras there's a great chance of having stunning images even with 3200+ ISO.
PS. I would give my arm away to have an 85 1.4 ^_^ |
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08/08/2013 05:54:56 AM · #10 |
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08/08/2013 06:40:59 AM · #11 |
Those are amazing! Love the composition, movement and i definitely see what you mean about the high iso. |
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08/08/2013 06:44:45 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Alexkc:
Man, your last free study entry is superb! I don't like auto ISO, but I admit that with the last full frame cameras there's a great chance of having stunning images even with 3200+ ISO.
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Cheers!
Originally posted by Alexkc:
PS. I would give my arm away to have an 85 1.4 ^_^ |
Yes, my most used lens. That paired with the 24mm 1.4 is pretty much most of a wedding for me although i do like using my zeiss 35mm f2 now and then if the situation means i can handle manual focus. The 24mm in particular, with a relatively slow shutter speed and f1.4 means i don't go that high iso anyway. |
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