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Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

06/26/2013 10:09:36 AM · #2

does it matter?

cowboy221977

Canon EOS-60D

06/26/2013 11:49:32 AM · #3

He needs to be taken out before he can cause more damage

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

06/26/2013 11:51:46 AM · #4

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

He needs to be taken out before he can cause more damage

Or lets the people know just how far Big Brother has become reality and how little respect the US Government has for its own Constitution.

cowboy221977

Canon EOS-60D

06/26/2013 11:56:41 AM · #5

He has fallen into a grey area. What he did was borderline treason. However, I agree that the ppublic needed to know the extent of the spying. It really is a tough call. What info does he still have and is he going to sell this info to our enemies. This really can be a dangerous situation for alll parties involved.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/26/2013 12:21:39 PM · #6

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

He evidently hasn't sold anything yet. Seems he, unlike the government, is actually interested in seeing the Constitution upheld.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

06/26/2013 12:33:53 PM · #7

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
He has fallen into a grey area. What he did was borderline treason. However, I agree that the ppublic needed to know the extent of the spying. It really is a tough call. What info does he still have and is he going to sell this info to our enemies. This really can be a dangerous situation for alll parties involved.

He evidently hasn't sold anything yet. Seems he, unlike the government, is actually interested in seeing the Constitution upheld.

An interesting situation for sure.

Is he a traitor? Yes, to the US government, he most certainly is.

Is he a hero? Yes, at least to some people, and maybe he should be to all of us.

Is what he did right? Man. That's a tough one - he did take an oath, which of course was an oath to both his duty and the constitution. I suppose the real question is "what takes priority, when in conflict, his duty to his government, or his interpretation of his duty to the constitution?"

I really don't know that I would have done the same though, since I pretty much consider all such matters way beyond my pay grade, and I would never compromise or release a client's data or information intentionally.

Message edited by author 2013-06-26 12:34:15.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

06/26/2013 12:37:53 PM · #8

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
He has fallen into a grey area. What he did was borderline treason. However, I agree that the ppublic needed to know the extent of the spying. It really is a tough call. What info does he still have and is he going to sell this info to our enemies. This really can be a dangerous situation for alll parties involved.

He evidently hasn't sold anything yet. Seems he, unlike the government, is actually interested in seeing the Constitution upheld.

An interesting situation for sure.

Is he a traitor? Yes, to the US government, he most certainly is.

Is he a hero? Yes, at least to some people, and maybe he should be to all of us.

Is what he did right? Man. That's a tough one - he did take an oath, which of course was an oath to both his duty and the constitution. I suppose the real question is "what takes priority, when in conflict, his duty to his government, or his interpretation of his duty to the constitution?"

I really don't know that I would have done the same though, since I pretty much consider all such matters way beyond my pay grade, and I would never compromise or release a client's data or information intentionally.

Never? No matter how heinous the offenses committed by your client?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

06/26/2013 12:41:08 PM · #9

This thread is for challenge suggestions.

If you want to discuss the (de)merits of Mr. Snowden's actions and the government's response please create a separate thread in Rant for that. Thanks.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

06/26/2013 12:43:02 PM · #10

Originally posted by GeneralE:

This thread is for challenge suggestions.

If you want to discuss the (de)merits of Mr. Snowden's actions and the government's response please create a separate thread in Rant for that. Thanks.

Can we fight spambots there?

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

06/26/2013 12:45:09 PM · #11

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Cory:

I really don't know that I would have done the same though, since I pretty much consider all such matters way beyond my pay grade, and I would never compromise or release a client's data or information intentionally.

Never? No matter how heinous the offenses committed by your client?

They'd have to do something quite a bit more heinous than eavesdropping on electronic communications. The fact that his 'revelations' surprised anyone is, in fact, quite a surprise to me.

Now, as the good General suggested, let's discuss the merits of this as a challenge.

Doc, I admire you - but I think this idea sucks. ;)

jagar

Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+

Sony Sonnar FE 2.8 35mm ZA

06/26/2013 12:51:24 PM · #12

I really thought this was going to be about the welch mountain.

Message edited by author 2013-06-26 12:52:46.

Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Canon Mount

06/26/2013 03:11:06 PM · #13

I got snowed-in once last winter, but it's a bit warm for that kind of thing now.

Mike

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/26/2013 03:24:35 PM · #14

How about "where's Langdon" instead?