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09/01/2004 08:56:52 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by cghubbell:
Mea culpa! The rules definitely are in contrast to my statement's wording.
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I know - I really deserve it :) Shouldn't have even opened my mouth in a voting thread as I know how volatile they are. Lashings gratefully accepted, lesson learned! Back to less subjective threads where I'm safer - oh yeah, like "one big CF card or two smaller ones? Let's see if I can start a war there too :)
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09/01/2004 11:43:53 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
... I will give someone a 1 if it doesn't meet the challenge for me. Why have a challenge? |
When the choice is infinite, many don't know where to begin, some experience a block. When choices are limited, those who have no specific or general interest feel stimulated. The method of limiting choices by offering specific topics is frequently (and mostly successfully) employed in all kinds of creative projects everywhere.
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09/02/2004 12:05:31 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by ggbudge:
I think some interpret "frames" to be completely enclosed. That's just one definition...
//dictionary.reference.com/search?q=frame
When I vote on a photo, I try to keep my interpretation out of it and try to see the photographers' interpretation. I may not always see it, but I may just give them the benefit of the doubt. Just because I can't see it from their perspective doesn't mean it absolutely doesn't meet the challenge.
That being said, don't judge too harshly. |
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Wise words. I'm a writer and I judge (and even get paid for it) literary (usually poetry) competitions. I've been keeping quiet,but some of the judging habits on this site -well I'm still keeping quiet. Its too bad - but what you have said - is the best way to judge, the most honest and the most objective. That is all I'll say.
Message edited by author 2004-09-02 00:09:19. |
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09/02/2004 12:38:13 AM · #29 |
Many, MANY of the photos for the framing challenge used trees and/or leaves as their foreground frame. When in doubt, look for the trees.
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09/02/2004 12:41:48 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
... I will give someone a 1 if it doesn't meet the challenge for me. Why have a challenge? |
When the choice is infinite, many don't know where to begin, some experience a block. When choices are limited, those who have no specific or general interest feel stimulated. The method of limiting choices by offering specific topics is frequently (and mostly successfully) employed in all kinds of creative projects everywhere. |
Well than those folks will have to learn like I did. :-) And when they get good enough like some folks on this site. Voter's won't see the creativity that was put into the photos. crabappl3 is one who gets lower scores for (to me) awesome, ribbon winning photos. I guess you can't satisfy everyone. :-)
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09/02/2004 12:45:59 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by ericlimon:
I have an image in the challenge that some people might think "the frame is not in the foreground" but, if a voter thinks a bit more, they might realize that the forground subject really does actually frame the rest of my image (maybe not in the traditional way, but it DEFINATELY frames the rest of the image). So before you vote down on an image that you think might not fit the challenge, think hard about the image as a whole, and vote accordingly.
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I think I am experiencing the same thing with the voting. I am receiving very nice comments, but I fear those that don't look at the WHOLE picture! The subject of my photo does in fact frame the image, just not the traditional framing you are expecting to see. Do look at the WHOLE image!
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09/02/2004 12:53:39 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by cghubbell:
Originally posted by srpavo:
They don't have a frame, or it's not in the foreground, or other problems. How do you vote on these submissions? Some of them are good pictures, they just have nothing to do with the challenge. |
Technically I think you are supposed give the benefit of the doubt and vote on the image as though it did meet the challenge. |
CG--I thinkj I will be adopting your mindset. Since everyone does interpret things differently, assume they have met the challenge. In their mind, somehow, someway it met the challenge. Then I will ask myself, "is the perspective appealing to you?" (I probably rank appeal higher than I should--I have to be drawn into the image). A well composed photo will draw me in, and if you have made that subtle attempt to frame the image, it will rate well with me.
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09/02/2004 01:08:17 AM · #33 |
First Pass of voting and man am I glad that's done. I will go back and comment...but geesh.
Frames with no subject, Frames with tiny unrecognizable subjects, Frames in focus subject oof (there was one that worked however). No Frames, too many frames, frames made by filters...Argh!!!
This isn't helping my voting average... :(
ED: Did I mention oof frames and oof subjects?
Message edited by author 2004-09-02 01:09:31. |
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09/02/2004 09:12:21 AM · #34 |
After reading this thread, I want to bring up something that I don't think has been mentioned yet.
I think there are two different types of challenges on DPC. One are the subjective/thematic challenges, (ie. Hope or Fairy Tales), those challenges that ask for a certain subject/theme to be included in the challenge. I give the benefit of the doubt often in these. I may not have heard of the Fairy Tale that is in the subject of a photo, or it may not mean hope to me, but no big deal, I give it the vote the photo deserves.
Then there are the technical challenges (ie Nude, Framing, Motion blur, etc.). These really remind me of my intro to photography class I took in college. These require that you use a certain technique that will enhance the photo overall. If the technique isn't used effectivley (or if an honest attempt wasn't made), in my class, we would have gotten a lower grade.
Glancing through the current challenge, Honestly, I see that with the exception of maybe only 2, each photo has a frame. Seriously.
But I did see alot of photos that will not score high from me. Why? Because alot of people are just throwing a frame in there because it has to be there for the challenge, meanwhile the frame does absolutely NOTHING for the picture. A frame should help bring the focus of the viewer into the subject of the picture, draw his eye to the subject. Alot of these do this very ineffectively.
Ok, that's enough for now.
*Soleil*
Message edited by author 2004-09-02 09:14:44. |
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09/04/2004 08:59:38 AM · #35 |
| Maybe there should be a "Does not meet challenge" box to click when voting. Too many votes would mean you were disquilified or moved to a second set of results. |
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09/04/2004 09:21:23 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by jimika:
Maybe there should be a "Does not meet challenge" box to click when voting. Too many votes would mean you were disquilified or moved to a second set of results. |
Now that sounds interesting for voting:
Meets Challenge: Yes[] No[]
Photo Quality: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Then the hard part would be to figure out how to tally up the score.
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