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05/23/2013 08:50:12 AM · #1 |
thinking about picking up another flash. possibly getting a canon brand flash,my Yong nuo 460iis, while great, dont work well with the 5dii as a master, no TTL, no second curtain sync, no zoom function, no high speed sync.
if im going to be doing more creative work with flash as i would like, especially outdoors at night, i think i may need to upgrade my master since i need to pick up a third flash, so if do i go with canon brand, which one and why or will the newer Yongnuos (with TTL) work just fine.
its either a flash of lens i'm buying. not sure if its better spent on a good flash or get a lens i covet.
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05/23/2013 03:24:14 PM · #2 |
thanks for all the input...
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05/23/2013 06:16:51 PM · #3 |
| Sorry, Mike. I don't know enough about this to provide any advice. But, maybe the bump will help a little. |
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05/23/2013 06:46:07 PM · #4 |
| The newest yongnuo is supposed to support ttl, high speed sync, and second curtain. I would at least take a look at it. |
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05/23/2013 06:48:00 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Mike:
thinking about picking up another flash. possibly getting a canon brand flash,my Yong nuo 460iis, while great, dont work well with the 5dii as a master, no TTL, no second curtain sync, no zoom function, no high speed sync.
if im going to be doing more creative work with flash as i would like, especially outdoors at night, i think i may need to upgrade my master since i need to pick up a third flash, so if do i go with canon brand, which one and why or will the newer Yongnuos (with TTL) work just fine.
its either a flash of lens i'm buying. not sure if its better spent on a good flash or get a lens i covet. |
If you're looking for TTL performance on many flashes, prepare to spend out the nose. Different brands don't always play nice together, so I can't say for certain how the YN's would be with a Canon system, but I do know, for instance, that the Sigma TTL's work.... interestingly.... with the Nikon TTL system. Also remember that TTL requires the flashes be able to see each other, which can be cumbersome at times (I've done a lot of work with Nikon's CLS, so I'm well aware of the pro's/cons). If you need to use radio, it then gets to be even more expensive.
I just want to sorta lay things out for you so far as that goes. If you're only looking for zoom/2nd curtain, I believe the Nikon SB26 can do remote second curtain, it also zooms, is usually reasonably priced and pretty durable. I can test mine to verify that they can do 2nd curtain. TTL won't work, however. |
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05/23/2013 10:11:55 PM · #6 |
I just bought the Neewer 560...just came tonight. Not heavy duty build, but I just tried it on camera (no TTL) and it worked great.
I bought it to us as a slave...I was looking at the Yonguos too, but I figured this was cheap enough that it was worth a try, since I could get two for the price of one Yonguo. I haven't tried the slave modes yet, but overall, so far, looks nice. It also has a good locking mechanism, which is good.
I'll let you know how it works out. |
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05/23/2013 10:31:23 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Neil:
I just bought the Neewer 560...just came tonight. Not heavy duty build, but I just tried it on camera (no TTL) and it worked great.
I bought it to us as a slave...I was looking at the Yonguos too, but I figured this was cheap enough that it was worth a try, since I could get two for the price of one Yonguo. I haven't tried the slave modes yet, but overall, so far, looks nice. It also has a good locking mechanism, which is good.
I'll let you know how it works out. |
Those look awesome.
I think I need four more radios and four more flashes.
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05/23/2013 10:43:25 PM · #8 |
I've recently purchased a couple of the Yongnuo 560II and they work great. They're a manual flash, so obviously you're not getting TTL features, but other than that they pretty much offer everything else. Can't vouch for their use with a 5D, but with my K5 and K20D they've so far proven 100% reliable when slaved to the on on-camera flash or each other or when used with Cactus wireless triggers. For around $70 they are well worth checking out.
Message edited by author 2013-05-23 22:47:46. |
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05/23/2013 11:20:04 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Qiki:
I've recently purchased a couple of the Yongnuo 560II and they work great. They're a manual flash, so obviously you're not getting TTL features, but other than that they pretty much offer everything else. Can't vouch for their use with a 5D, but with my K5 and K20D they've so far proven 100% reliable when slaved to the on on-camera flash or each other or when used with Cactus wireless triggers. For around $70 they are well worth checking out. |
I've got the 560II and the 565 as well. They're solid units. But, at <$50, these are even cooler!
Plus, as a bonus over the Yongnuo 560II, they have a LED display, rather than that LCD that I can never read off-angle. |
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05/24/2013 07:03:12 AM · #10 |
i hear good things about the new YNs especially the new radio triggers, eTTL and HS sync for $80???
that said i really have no need for eTTL and i'd prefer not to pay the premium for it. I have no idea what abilities of flash i m missing out on so i am questioning if i ought to get Canon brand.
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05/24/2013 07:08:05 AM · #11 |
Here is the Yongnuo flash I was referring to earlier... Yongnuo YN-568EX TTL High Speed 1/8000 Flash Speedlite for Canon
They are even getting into the TTL trigger market with these.
Those Newer looks pretty sweet as well for manual. |
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05/24/2013 04:38:31 PM · #12 |
I just did some reading on those ttl triggers-
One thing I would note is that they do not allow grouping of lights in the same way that the camera mfgs do (IIRC Canon is the same as Nikon here). Nikon allows you to set each group differently, with 3 groups being set from the camera or more if you use the su800 or an sb800/900/910 mounted on camera, so you can have +/- three steps for each group. The YN's allow your groups to either be set 1:1 or 1:2 or full manual. Depending upon the type of lighting you do, this may be an issue. Early reports look good overall, with some complaining of heavy over/under exposure, but this could just as easily be due to the lighting conditions and limitations of TTL in the first place (it screws things up sometimes on its own). |
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