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09/01/2004 04:57:05 PM · #51 |
I am confused, I framed a subject...the foreground is out of focus cos I thought the background was the the main point.
Guess that's why I always score so low, I speak English!
Who would have a frame in focus and the background just a blur!! |
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09/01/2004 05:00:14 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Wolfie:
I am confused, I framed a subject...the foreground is out of focus cos I thought the background was the the main point.
Guess that's why I always score so low, I speak English!
Who would have a frame in focus and the background just a blur!! |
I'm in the same place Wolfie, it's not bothering me a ton because it was a last minute shot and submission, but it still is bothering me because I feel like I shouldn't have had to read the forum thread and pick apart the description THAT much to KNOW that the "frame" had to be IN FOCUS too. -_- I mean, if that's the way it's supposed to be then JUST SAY IT!
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09/01/2004 05:01:52 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Wolfie:
I am confused, I framed a subject...the foreground is out of focus cos I thought the background was the the main point.
Guess that's why I always score so low, I speak English!
Who would have a frame in focus and the background just a blur!! |
IMO it should not matter what is in focus or what is the main subject as long as you have a foreground that FRAMES a background.
I have just finished voting and you are not the only one confused out there. I would say a large number of images did not frame with the foreground. |
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09/02/2004 09:57:00 PM · #54 |
| I agree with keegbow, that a large number of images in this challenge do not have a foreground frame. I found it quite disappointing, really. I fail to see, for example, how a clump of leaves in one corner in the foreground constitutes a frame, or how the sky could ever be in the foreground. It's a shame, because there were some great pictures which I had to mark down because they didn't fit what I thought was the challenge. |
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09/02/2004 10:08:34 PM · #55 |
...to continue the saga of confusion: How many sides should a Frame have? I've seen a few pictures where there's a single plane in the foreground, or some leaves in a corner, which IMO isn't a frame. I accepted pictues with 2 'planes' for a foreground object, if said object extends to the edge of the photo. Hmmm, Need an example... A picture of A ladder, where the ground below is cropped out, and there is an airplane flying by that's seen through the "A" shape of the ladder, I would count as Framed.
Whast about you others? Is a frame only a frame if it has 4 complete sides? Do you accept gaps in a frame? What about a 2-sider like my example? or 3? Opinions, please.
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09/02/2004 10:16:27 PM · #56 |
| IMO a frame should be at least two sides or a corner but can be all sides as long as it draws your attention to the background subject. |
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09/02/2004 10:17:32 PM · #57 |
I have an image in this challenge that some people might not think that the "forground" doesn't frame the background. If voters think a little deeper though, they might realize that the "forground" really DOES frame the rest of the image. I think some voters need to really think beyond the concept we know of as "framing" with four sides. Some images have 2 sides, three sides, 4 sides, 5 sides, no sides cause they are round, or they use an even trickier concept of "framing".
Think outside the box a little. If it's framed, even if it's not what you consider a "traditional" frame, then vote on the concept, construction, and appealing aspects of the image.
And anyone who says that the "frame" needs to be in focus is way confused. It's not a literal frame. It naturally "frames" the image.
Message edited by author 2004-09-02 22:20:45.
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09/02/2004 10:20:32 PM · #58 |
I'm confident that I'm primarily scoring low because of confusion over what the challenge means to the letter.. so be it. I used this challenge to be creative, and to push *my* photographic envelope. However, my photograph is also an optical illusion of sorts, which will all come clear in the end.
I can honestly say that my submission is one of my all-time favorite photographs, so if the voters that stick to the letter want to send me to the land of 3s.. all the power to them. Rock on!
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09/10/2004 05:17:40 PM · #59 |
LOL
I just realised whilst looking through a list of challenge suggestions that I provided a while back that Framing was one of mine, right down to the wording!
Tee hee, so it's all my fault!
:oP
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09/11/2004 06:00:33 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
LOL
I just realised whilst looking through a list of challenge suggestions that I provided a while back that Framing was one of mine, right down to the wording!
Tee hee, so it's all my fault!
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Perhaps you can then elucidate whether/why this did/did not meet your idea for the challenge ... I've quoted one of the other comments on the photo.
Originally posted by mhoogendyk:
Wonderful image; nice thought; cutsey title. Framing though? Hmm... The hands are so much a part of the bars image-wise, that what I see is ALL frame and no image. Maybe if there was some kind of background indicative of a gulag or penal camp, maybe then it would have a foreground frame and background image and seem to qualify more for this challenge. That's just my humble opinion, and I could be wrong. Again, nice image. I really like the subdued lighting on the hands. |
Because my "mental picture" of a cell window as seen from the outside involves a neutral-gray stone or concrete wall, I wanted to use the DPC page background to create (by implication) the edges of the "window," framing the arms and bars against the darker gray of what is supposed to be the back wall of the cell.
I was hoping the dark, dark grays would symbolize the empty hopelessness of the imprisoned, and the barrenness and visual sterility of their environment; the loss of identity and dehumanization. I also needed to disguise the fact that my "prisoner" is only seven years old : )
Here's a couple of versions where I used exactly the same grays (as the DPC background) outside the image, but added a few details to make its purpose more obvious.
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