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 05/14/2013 09:10:52 AM · #1
A great idea

But even homeless people may not want to wear their clothes anymore.
(And the guy does look like "old Biff!")

Message edited by author 2013-05-14 10:29:34.
 05/14/2013 11:41:11 AM · #2
LOL! Very clever. On the other hand, A&F has the right to do whatever they want. It's their product. As long as there are exclusionary people, they will seek exclusionary brands.

On a separate note, the Goodwill where he shopped is the same one I go to for all my photographic wardrobe needs.
 05/14/2013 01:21:46 PM · #3
Awesome. I like my douche-bag shirt though (I only have one, but I do have one. I admit it... Although, my GF bought it for me, and it's a very funny shirt.)

Message edited by author 2013-05-14 13:37:01.
 05/14/2013 01:26:00 PM · #4
It is agreed that a company has right to craft its own image, but here, this blatant "frontrunner only " mentality is loathesome to many people.
 05/14/2013 01:31:00 PM · #5
let the cool people bore each other to death.
 05/14/2013 04:28:15 PM · #6
I'm an Aussie. It's engrained in our psyche to want to tear shit like that crappy exclusionary attitude down. If I or anyone I know had any A&F stuff, it'd be 'donated' to the cause post haste.
 05/14/2013 05:28:10 PM · #7
Can we "Pink" the cute ones.
 05/14/2013 07:39:21 PM · #8
Ha! I love it! I LOVE it!
 05/14/2013 10:56:06 PM · #9
Actually over the years I have owned alot of A&F clothes. They have the right to market to whoever
 05/15/2013 01:40:37 AM · #10
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Actually over the years I have owned alot of A&F clothes. They have the right to market to whoever


Yes, their market is their business bt what about the burn-not-donate policy? Do you think that to be moral?
 05/15/2013 08:15:07 AM · #11
The only problem I have is that now it's hard to tell the homeless people I'd like to help out from the douchebags I'd like to punch out...avoid.
 05/15/2013 08:26:06 AM · #12
So I'm trying to find out if it's true -- and it seems that it was a quote from about 7 years ago, and I can't find more info.

Was it a stupid remark, or do they really do it? And if it's over a quote from 7 years ago, someone's got a more recent beef with the company, it seems.
 05/15/2013 11:10:18 AM · #13
The interview was seven years ago, the protests are for the recent activity- like stocking the NY flagship stores with mostly Double 0's and extra smalls for women, nothing over a 10;

I guess you could be right Wendy, but in this new world of media hyper-exposure, things can fall off the radar a while, and when some new interest comes to the fore-
 05/15/2013 12:02:09 PM · #14
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Actually over the years I have owned alot of A&F clothes. They have the right to market to whoever


Yes, their market is their business bt what about the burn-not-donate policy? Do you think that to be moral?


I didnt say that I agree with their policies. I think that the clothes should be donates to the homeless
 05/15/2013 12:14:42 PM · #15
Originally posted by Paul:
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Actually over the years I have owned alot of A&F clothes. They have the right to market to whoever


Yes, their market is their business bt what about the burn-not-donate policy? Do you think that to be moral?


It's perfectly normal.

In retail, there are policies known as D&D, short for Destroy and Dispose.

When a product is returned to a retailer, but is not sufficiently valuable to merit refurbishment, no matter what the condition of the item, it will be destroyed and then thrown away to prevent undermining the market value of the product by selling it at a discount.

I always had a SUPER hard time taking a sledgehammer to perfectly good electronics and furniture. But it does make good business sense.
 05/15/2013 12:25:05 PM · #16
Originally posted by Cory:


I always had a SUPER hard time taking a sledgehammer to perfectly good electronics and furniture. But it does make good business sense.


I challenge the economics of doing this. In cases where the item can be sold as "blemished" or otherwise imperfect, the business generates income from the item, and someone gets a good price on something they might not otherwise afford. For items where the value is too low to sell as imperfect donating them is still a good option. IMO, businesses that attempt to justify destruction of these items often have not thought it through.

Message edited by author 2013-05-15 12:25:36.
 05/15/2013 12:56:33 PM · #17
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Cory:


I always had a SUPER hard time taking a sledgehammer to perfectly good electronics and furniture. But it does make good business sense.


I challenge the economics of doing this. In cases where the item can be sold as "blemished" or otherwise imperfect, the business generates income from the item, and someone gets a good price on something they might not otherwise afford. For items where the value is too low to sell as imperfect donating them is still a good option. IMO, businesses that attempt to justify destruction of these items often have not thought it through.


I suspect that the likes of HP, HON furniture, IBM, Kingston, and NVidia have spent quite a bit of money to think this through.

It's not at all an uncommon policy - go to your local retailer and ask about their policies on this stuff - I think you'll be surprised at what you find.

Now, to be fair, I haven't been in retail in ten years - so this may have changed, but I doubt it.

FWIW, I do know that Costco sells at least some of the returns to junk dealers (but they have to buy EVERYTHING that is returned, including popcorn and blankets)..
 05/15/2013 01:47:00 PM · #18
Love it Paul...posting on FB
 05/15/2013 01:54:29 PM · #19
Originally posted by Cory:
FWIW, I do know that Costco sells at least some of the returns to junk dealers (but they have to buy EVERYTHING that is returned, including popcorn and blankets)..

See? They're missing an opportunity - They could sell the popcorn and blankets to cold cinemas.
 05/15/2013 03:08:30 PM · #20
Frankly, I know I'm older now,(but I still have young children (4, 10 and 11 1/2)) As little as I am in malls, I avoid this place like the plague,

for one, it is set up like a nightclub, thumping beats, low lights, and provocative posters of shirtless teens- I'm not narrow but I couldn't see many guys aside from Michael Stipe wanting to go into this place. The brand Hollister, which seems to have to "One up" A & Fitch in every way has even managed to make their outlet store seem like a counterculture nightclub.

Admittedly, In the 80's in my teens we used to go into A & Fitch when it was an old man's store, and by sleeveless cricket type sweaters.

Message edited by author 2013-05-15 15:09:14.
 05/15/2013 03:21:09 PM · #21
Yes, it used to be the place for American would-be English gentry. Sigh. Death of an illusion.
 05/15/2013 03:22:47 PM · #22
Originally posted by blindjustice:
A great idea

But even homeless people may not want to wear their clothes anymore.
(And the guy does look like "old Biff!")

Exploiting the homeless?
 05/15/2013 04:26:16 PM · #23
Tempest in a teacup, really. I would bet money that the people screaming the loudest have never bought anything from A&F. Who cares what they do with their merchandise???? In the end, this campaign is as likely to make money for them as not. Well-intentioned people wanting to give the clothes to the homeless, and not having any to give away, may go buy some for that sole purpose. Result: more sales for A&F. As for ethics/morals, if we do not agree with a company's policies, we are (blissfully) free to take our business elsewhere. I truly don't get this brouhaha...

Like Cory said, some companies (with airs of exclusivity and superiority) have calculated that destroying unsold or blemished items is better for their bottom line. Almost every decision a company makes is based on whether or not it will save/make them money. And yet, there are some appliance companies that send blemished goods to outlets such as Pacific Sales, where I've bought numerous high-end appliances at significantly reduced prices because there was a tiny scratch on the paint, in the back.
 05/15/2013 04:46:56 PM · #24
scratch my back...
 05/15/2013 05:12:33 PM · #25

i guess folks cant have opinions any longer. i admire his honesty (although a tad immoral), if you dont like it dont shop at his stores. i dont see the problem.

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