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08/31/2004 10:50:41 PM · #1
Just wondering about going from a regular digital camera to the Rebel. Hows the learning curve? Easy, So-so, still learning, etc?

The leap may be happening sooner then I thought and I would really like your opinions on this matter. Thanks guys.
08/31/2004 11:11:08 PM · #2
Gee, I'm not Rooster or TooCool but I can tell you what it's like going to the Rebel; At least if you've ever used a SLR before. It's like coming home.
Looking thru the view finder instead of an LCD screen. Turning the lens to lock in focus. That decisive click when you put another lens on the body, knowing that IT is the lens that will best translate your vision onto that little compact flash card.

Go for it :-)
08/31/2004 11:40:38 PM · #3
You won't regret it. Its like Christmas everyday :)
08/31/2004 11:44:32 PM · #4
Originally posted by fayepek:

You won't regret it. Its like Christmas everyday :)


Yea...Christmas everyday....for rich people! :) Ok...seriously now...I would give my right arm for a camera like Fayepek has....she's got hundreds of dollars worth of fancy gadgets with it, but BOY is it worth it!!
09/01/2004 12:06:46 AM · #5
Never used a slr camera prior to the 300d. Using the manual mode on the s85 did lessen the learning curve a bit, but I still experience over/under exposed photos once in a while if I'm not paying close attention to the settings.
09/01/2004 12:07:52 AM · #6
DO IT, Welland! I promise you will not regret it!
Aside from the interchangeable lens, it's like most cams. Very easy to learn & has LOTS of great features!
Most folks have been at this longer than me ( only a bit over a year) & if I can do it, I know u can too!
Join us! All the COOL kids are doin; it!
09/01/2004 12:12:50 AM · #7
yes be like us. join team rebel
09/01/2004 12:18:16 AM · #8
im hoping to order my rebel tomorrow :)...im very exited, finally raised enough money lol
09/01/2004 12:27:35 AM · #9
Ya know how to get a guys attention! The learning curve is a little steep! I think I have it under control now, but I'm frustrated by the kit lens. At first I was amazed at the quality of pics it would produce! They were (seemingly) way better than the Oly I was using. However, I've discovered that that's an illusion caused by the vastly superior control over the camera itself. The lens itself is VERY soft at best. You want MY best oppinion? Go with a company that can supply you a dRebel with their own kit. It may be a little more pricey, but the results should be better! Next best option... Get the body only and select your lenses. I KNOW that YOU of all people have done the research! I've read your forum posts.
09/01/2004 12:32:35 AM · #10
It's awquard - like taking photographs with a blindfold.
It's cumbersome and slow to set up shots.
It's intimidating equipment for street photography, candids and the like.

An endless learning curve, really, for a generalist.
For a specialist, a DSLR can be a treat: things can come together nicely and a little quicker, when we choose to restrict the plethora of options available.

I prefer to have a second (non-DSLR) walk-around camera with me, one I know well and can operate in my sleep. The less sophisticated (complicated) the equipment, the simpler to realize some shots - until, of course, you have mastered both. ;-)

Message edited by author 2004-09-01 00:33:42.
09/01/2004 01:03:29 AM · #11
when I got mine..boy let me tell you...I thought I hit the jackpot....overall, it's a nice thing to have and haveing the ability to change lenses ect...much more fun to use...learning curve, easy if you love it, harder, if you don't like technicals of a machine...as for me easy to learn about, but I hate sitting through a lot material reading about technical stuff....I think with my right side of my brain. :) Or perhaps one of those men who throw out the instuctions and learn the hard way...:) You'll love it! Oh, I think the kit kinda seem to suck...as they do...the focus is harder to get sometimes, it does with me....hey, it's a kit lens...
09/01/2004 01:14:37 AM · #12
I've been shooting film SLR's for as long as I can remember until 2001 when I went digital with the Canon G2. I couldn't wait for an affordable DSLR to come out, and as soon as the D-Rebel came out I got it and never looked back. It is definitely harder if you have never shot with an SLR but the beauty of digital is that you can learn a lot faster since you don't have the limitation of $$$ to spend on endless rolls of film. Since switching to my DSLR my photography has improved by quite a bit.
09/01/2004 01:25:41 AM · #13
Heesh...I gotta get some lenses....
09/01/2004 01:26:59 AM · #14
nikon nikon nikon yeah go nikon
09/01/2004 01:28:06 AM · #15
The Rebel is the most ugly of all cameras... The fake metal plastic colour - a Star Trek phazer prototype reject. Chunks of useless plastic sticking out in various directions especially the flash makes for catching on clothing and neckstraps. The camera is oversized for what it does. However the camera does fit fairly well in the hand, but black grip is a bit slippery. I find the toy plastic kit lens fun to use. The kit is usable on a tri pod and does have some ability, but the advice of others to forget about it and choose something of higher quality and cost is sound. Canon's intrepretation of digital menus and the programs are byzintine and require translations from and to other camera makers designations for me to understand them. I am glad it has an optical viewfinder which is my main requirement in a digital camera.

Message edited by author 2004-09-01 01:50:53.
09/01/2004 01:32:35 AM · #16
Originally posted by undieyatch:

I am glad it has an optical viewfinder which is my main requirement in a digital camera.

I am so missing that now! Anyone know how to take a motion-pan shot with an EVF system?
09/01/2004 01:44:00 AM · #17
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Anyone know how to take a motion-pan shot with an EVF system?


Push the button with crossed fingers?
09/01/2004 01:50:17 AM · #18
I found the learning curve with the 10D really easy, and the curve there is fairly similar to the 300D.

Remember .... initially you can still set it to full auto, in effect an over-priced point & shoot ... and then as you get more confident expand into the various modes, such as portrait, sports etc.

Then move up to aperture or shutter priority, and then finally to full manual.

The great thing is, and this holds true for other dSLR's I am sure ... you can shoot great shots from day one, and then progress and experiment at any rate you like :)
09/01/2004 08:02:22 AM · #19
Seems like a lot of people are down on the Rebel's kit lens but, IMHO, for it's price and purpose, it does ok. If you decide to purchase the body only, a good first lens would be Tamron's 28-75mm 2.8 XR Di. Sells for $369 at B&H. It's range is a little lonnger on the top end while sacrifacing some at wide angle, a faster maximum aperture that is constant throughout the zoom range is nice. It's optics rank it with Canon and Nikon lenses costing 3 times as much and more. Build quality is not L but, same as for the kit lens, this won't be the last lens you buy. Or, if you are not in too much of a hurry, Canon's new EF-S 17-85 w/IS is selling as a kit lens with the new 20D so there may be some of them available used in a few months; new it adds $500 to the 20D body.
09/01/2004 08:08:36 AM · #20
Learning curve for the basics is simple. I figured out most of it within a couple of hours, and didnt even read the manual. However, I still don't (and probably never will) understand flash exposure compensation, and weird stuff like that :P
09/01/2004 08:57:56 AM · #21
How much faster does the SLR focus than a P&S like my Sony, or the Canon A70.
My wife hates my camera as she is usd to pressing the shutter & getting an instant photo wthout any delay at all. She doesn't have the patience for the half press then press the rest when you want to take.
09/01/2004 08:59:18 AM · #22
The USM lenses focus in a split second, non-usm takes a little longer but still much faster than point and shoots. My old G2 took years to focus :P
09/01/2004 09:00:25 AM · #23
As Ben says - much faster than a P&S..
09/01/2004 09:10:15 AM · #24
That S 17-85 w/IS sounds pretty nice. Combine that with a 70 - 300 and a 1.8 50 mm and you would be pretty well setup wouldn't you?.
Can it do macros also?
09/01/2004 09:13:03 AM · #25
A lot of lenses say they have macro mode, but it's best to get a specialised macro lens if you want to get jacko-esque shots :)
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