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04/18/2013 12:38:21 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I knew they did everything bigger in Texas, but a whole PLANET of fertilizer...? As for the video, O...M...G... |
I just got this... LOL! |
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04/18/2013 12:56:17 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Stagolee:
As much as people find the video funny.....this is a terrible catastrophe�..many more killed then the Boston Marathon which has taken all the media attention |
i don't think anyone finds it funny. |
Comments on here differ to your opinion! |
i believe the comments questioned the judgement of the father taking the video, which was warranted in my opinion. |
Think of the victims first......then cast judgement on others judgements! |
To clarify: I didn't find the video funny. Also, stop judging my judgment of other people's judgement... |
To clarify further, this is a tragedy, and one that is most certainly not amusing.
Absolutely unlike the tragedy that is Mike's spelling! :) Seriously, the event is not at all funny - but Mike's title is unintentionally hilarious, my first thought was similar to Robert's.
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
As for the video(s), I'm always pleased there are people foolish or brave enough to run in with the recorder on. Just wish they'd use tripods more often.
So where is the current fatality count? I'm hearing it's now at an estimated 15? Let's hope that gets revised down further. And why is this getting less attention? Because it was an accident, not an attack, and it happened in Nowhere, Texas, instead of at an international sporting even in the middle of Boston, Massachusetts.
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04/18/2013 01:16:46 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Cory:
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
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The way I understand it, the plant came first, sometime back in the 50's. People built homes, schools and retirement homes later. They both date back to a time when safety measures were much more lax.
The house where I grew up was less than half a mile from a plant that manufactured military munitions, things like artillery shells and ammo for 20mm cannons. Not exactly missiles, but close enough that you could hear it when they tested stuff or had a little boo boo.
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04/18/2013 01:20:01 PM · #29 |
well, im glad you found my title funny. i actually just noticed it after seeing Kelli's comment :)
and they don't usually build these plants next to houses, they build the houses next to the plants. in any case especially in such a rural area there is plenty of room to build residential, i'm guessing utilities and costs played a large part. maybe in the future the zoning board wills evaluate the risks, i doubt it, risk of a catastrophe of this magnitude are often minimal compared to cost savings.
its not getting any attention, because no one cares, there is no drama.
Message edited by author 2013-04-18 13:20:43. |
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04/18/2013 01:52:03 PM · #30 |
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
Corey I hear that! This isn't the first fertilizer plant blow up, that stuff is explosive! Seriously would you want a nuke plant next door to your Grandma's home!! They were trying to build one of these in a rural town near me... The farmers ran them out with pitch forks at the town meeting (literally) |
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04/18/2013 01:59:51 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by littlemav:
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
Corey I hear that! This isn't the first fertilizer plant blow up, that stuff is explosive! Seriously would you want a nuke plant next door to your Grandma's home!! They were trying to build one of these in a rural town near me... The farmers ran them out with pitch forks at the town meeting (literally) |
I also used to live less than 5 miles (as the crow flies...or the radioactive plume drifts) from Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. We used to get letters detailing the evacuation plan and tips on how to be prepared. Great fun. |
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04/18/2013 03:24:08 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by littlemav:
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
Corey I hear that! This isn't the first fertilizer plant blow up, that stuff is explosive! Seriously would you want a nuke plant next door to your Grandma's home!! They were trying to build one of these in a rural town near me... The farmers ran them out with pitch forks at the town meeting (literally) |
In some cases the plant comes 1st then the town builds up around it. Personally I would try not to live next door to a plant like this. |
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04/18/2013 03:34:47 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by littlemav:
I wonder if we're ever going to stop putting these sort of plants next to school and retirement homes? We wouldn't build a missile factory there, so why do we build fertilizer plants in these locations?
Corey I hear that! This isn't the first fertilizer plant blow up, that stuff is explosive! Seriously would you want a nuke plant next door to your Grandma's home!! They were trying to build one of these in a rural town near me... The farmers ran them out with pitch forks at the town meeting (literally) |
I also used to live less than 5 miles (as the crow flies...or the radioactive plume drifts) from Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. We used to get letters detailing the evacuation plan and tips on how to be prepared. Great fun. |
Then there's the entire generation of people who lived near the Rocky Flats plant in suburban Denver who are either dead or dying of cancer now. |
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04/18/2013 05:14:04 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
I also used to live less than 5 miles (as the crow flies...or the radioactive plume drifts) from Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. We used to get letters detailing the evacuation plan and tips on how to be prepared. Great fun. |
I remember (barely) attending one of the (unsuccessful) protests tryng to block Diablo Canyon from being built ... |
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04/18/2013 06:52:41 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Spork99:
I also used to live less than 5 miles (as the crow flies...or the radioactive plume drifts) from Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. We used to get letters detailing the evacuation plan and tips on how to be prepared. Great fun. |
I remember (barely) attending one of the (unsuccessful) protests tryng to block Diablo Canyon from being built ... |
Here comes another Bear_Music story :-) To wit:
Back in the 60's I was good friends (she married my best friend) with a member of the family that OWNED that entire point of land between San Luis Obispo and the sea, the southern portion of which includes Diablo Canyon. We used to spend long weekends on the property, wandering around this VAST Spanish Land Grant property/working ranch on our own. At this time, Diablo Canyon construction was underway, and they (the family) were PISSED. They'd basically devoted a considerable amount of time and resources keeping the entire property pristine, and the most pristine thing ON it was that canyon, the last undeveloped, truly wild California coastal canyon.
Specifically, they were pissed at the Sierra Club. It seems that the power company (PG&E, I think) was originally trying to build the plant in the dunes south of Pismo Beach, and THAT ecosystem is unique on the California coast, and essentially the Sierra Club fought for the dunes tooth and nail: in the end, the price they paid was to agree NOT to dispute the seizing of the private property that was Diablo Canyon, and so it happened.
As an odd sidelight to the story, at the time my friend's wife WORKED for the Sierra Club (although she had nothing whatsoever to do with any of this) and, needless to say, this caused some considerable stress within the family ranks :-)
Message edited by author 2013-04-18 18:53:04. |
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04/19/2013 10:00:43 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Spork99:
I also used to live less than 5 miles (as the crow flies...or the radioactive plume drifts) from Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant. We used to get letters detailing the evacuation plan and tips on how to be prepared. Great fun. |
I remember (barely) attending one of the (unsuccessful) protests tryng to block Diablo Canyon from being built ... |
Here comes another Bear_Music story :-) To wit:
Back in the 60's I was good friends (she married my best friend) with a member of the family that OWNED that entire point of land between San Luis Obispo and the sea, the southern portion of which includes Diablo Canyon. We used to spend long weekends on the property, wandering around this VAST Spanish Land Grant property/working ranch on our own. At this time, Diablo Canyon construction was underway, and they (the family) were PISSED. They'd basically devoted a considerable amount of time and resources keeping the entire property pristine, and the most pristine thing ON it was that canyon, the last undeveloped, truly wild California coastal canyon.
Specifically, they were pissed at the Sierra Club. It seems that the power company (PG&E, I think) was originally trying to build the plant in the dunes south of Pismo Beach, and THAT ecosystem is unique on the California coast, and essentially the Sierra Club fought for the dunes tooth and nail: in the end, the price they paid was to agree NOT to dispute the seizing of the private property that was Diablo Canyon, and so it happened.
As an odd sidelight to the story, at the time my friend's wife WORKED for the Sierra Club (although she had nothing whatsoever to do with any of this) and, needless to say, this caused some considerable stress within the family ranks :-) |
My friends and I went to one of the later protests while I was living there, blocking the entrance to the facility. I always thought that was just about the worst place to put a nuke plant. We also used to sneak into the canyon from the backside on foot via some of the blocked off canyon roads and some bushwhacking. It was hard going and we never got caught. I sure that if we did something like that today and got caught...it'd be a direct flight to Gitmo in an orange jumpsuit. |
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