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Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/30/2004 02:01:10 PM · #26

Originally posted by jonpink:

I think grain did it for many - and the blonde hair. I believe a lot of people like the neat image look and think grain is a bad technique :D

I liked them both I must add, but for completely different reasons.

Heida's was neat and tidy, more like a nice final piece of work that had been thought out and well finished off. A little too artificially soft for my tastes which i commented on.

Yours I felt had the natural quality and somehow captured more 'personality' than Heida's.

Both stern efforts.

More interesting I found was Nazgul's comment on Heida's being "Congrada on your 10th and definitely not your last Ribbon."

And on yours being "tasteless"

ironic huh?

jonpink

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2

08/30/2004 02:31:52 PM · #27

Seemingly so.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

08/30/2004 02:55:22 PM · #28

I gave heida's shot a 9, and Toddh's an 8.

The difference in terms of personal appeal: not much, but I preferred the posing in heida's. For your shot I would have preferred a bit of a wider shot, not cutting off her elbow and placing her head away from the corner of the frame. Again, it wasn't a big thing for me, I really like your shot.

I like the dark tones and I think the grain adds to the warmth and tenderness of your shot. Her pensive expression is wonderful too. You should be proud of this one.

jonpink

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2

08/30/2004 03:16:31 PM · #29

I think in a digital challenge it's also apparent that the noise is probably faked, which could hinder scores?

Makes no odds to me, but could expect others perhaps to dislike it.

heida

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/30/2004 03:18:28 PM · #30

I dont understand why you are comparing my pictures to yours
they have nothing in common except they are both pregnant
Its like comparing the brown ribbon to the third place cause they are both male
Btw Nazgul found my picture tasteless too But he can say congrats even though he dont like the picture

Nazgul

Canon EOS-20D

08/30/2004 03:20:12 PM · #31

For your information I think ALL photos of Nude pregnant women are tasteless.

But why should that matter what I think?
I am sure my single vote was not a strong factor in your low score

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 15:22:24.

thatcloudthere

Canon EOS-1D

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

08/30/2004 03:29:46 PM · #32

Originally posted by heida:

Um......I liked both pictures.

Bidule

Canon EOS-650/T4i Rebel

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

08/30/2004 03:32:10 PM · #33

Originally posted by Nazgul:

For your information I think ALL photos of Nude pregnant women are tasteless.

But why should that matter what I think?
I am sure my single vote was not a strong factor in your low score

Originally posted by Nazgul:

Til hamingju:D
p.s all you people that wanna marry her or have her bear your children, sheÂ´s gonna have little NazgulÂ´s with me:D ....lol

Maybe you will change your opinion one of theses day... :)

heida

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/30/2004 03:32:25 PM · #34

Well I did like his picture too I gave it a 7

08/30/2004 03:33:23 PM · #35

Heida, i compared it because of the content, I like your picture, it's well done. I think mine is better and that's why I compared them, I also think mine is better than ALOT of the images that finished above it. Is that a concieted attitude? You bet it is.....

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 15:35:37.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/30/2004 03:34:53 PM · #36

Originally posted by Nazgul:

For your information I think ALL photos of Nude pregnant women are tasteless.

But why should that matter what I think?
I am sure my single vote was not a strong factor in your low score

Perhaps you should learn some TACT.....

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

08/30/2004 03:35:23 PM · #37

It's a nice B&W shot, but my critics suggestion for yours would have been to select a different pose--yours doesn't really highlight the curves and form of the pregnant woman as Heida's does; I also find the crop too tight in the upper left, especially concerning her hand; I also didn't care particularly for the grain, but I don't think I held it against this; for me it was mostly the pose and perspective you chose that got you a just above average score for me FWIW. Heida's shot on the other hand was in my top picks.

heida

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/30/2004 03:40:09 PM · #38

I am just getting tired of when I have a picture that gets a ribbon
There is a thred about how it got so high or that I should take up painting and throw away my camera or something :p

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

08/30/2004 03:41:04 PM · #39

Originally posted by heida:

Btw Nazgul found my picture tasteless too But he can say congrats even though he dont like the picture

Even if he had put why I could have handled it, it's a pretty rude comment all by itself though

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

08/30/2004 03:41:33 PM · #40

Toddh.. If you're really going to hang on to an attitude like that, even with all the helpful critique and views shown by the people responding to your thread, even after you've showed that you *really* didn't want them in the first place, I believe you'd probably be better off somewhere else.

You said that you were done, well, good luck wherever you go if you are done here, because an attitude like that helps *nobody*.. especially yourself.

I'm just sorry it couldn't be different, because I do think you have a great deal of talent. You just need to learn some humility.

jonpink

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2

08/30/2004 03:43:02 PM · #41

Originally posted by heida:

Btw Nazgul found my picture tasteless too But he can say congrats even though he dont like the picture

Please, I was not implying double standards. Merely to the comic way they were both phrased :D

SteveJ

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

08/30/2004 03:49:38 PM · #42

i just wish one of my photos got to the point where I could have this sort of debate.

But mine don't, so I just sit at the bottom of the pile and smile...if I didn't I would cry. I am learning, so for the time being I am injecting some humour into my challenge entries...until the day comes when you will all bow before me and beg forgiveness for all the low votes in previous challenges.

Why can't everyone just chill out, it's a hobby, an interest. It ain't life or death.

computerking

Sony DSC-P73

08/30/2004 03:50:40 PM · #43

Originally posted by Toddh:

I think mine is better and that's why I compared them, I also think mine is better than ALOT of the images that finished above it.

...(to Nazgul)Perhaps you should learn some TACT.....

As much as I think that Nazgul's comment was tactless, I think equally about your recent statement. But tact isn't a quality that is enforced or even required, unfortunately. If you look back, I took a little heat from Melismatica about a comment I left on her picture, and we had a PM conversation and ironed things out. Perhaps you and Nazgul can do the same.

On another note, You are free to think your picture is better than every pictuer ranked higher. But remember that the challenge is voted on by other people, who might not share your vision, or your level of appreciation of your own art. If the answers you've already gotten aren't good enough, you're free to keep searching. But personally, I think that, since the challenge is now over, and there's about a Icecube's chance in a Blast furnace of you overturning every picture ahead of yours, you should now concentrate on future challenges.

Rise above your current situation.

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 15:54:05.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/30/2004 04:02:20 PM · #44

yes, computerking and Artyste you are both right.....

it ain't gunna change.... and I should just take it like a man....

apologies to Heida whom I think is an excellent exponent of photography and photoshop.

Those here who know me know this is not my style.

As to the Nazgul thing, all he needs to is remove or change his incredibly tactless comment and I will say no more.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

08/30/2004 04:34:38 PM · #45

Originally posted by heida:

I am just getting tired of when I have a picture that gets a ribbon
There is a thred about how it got so high or that I should take up painting and throw away my camera or something :p

No secret there. You get high scores and ribbons because the VAST majority of voters prefer your images to the competitions'. With several hundred people voting on anonymous entries, every shot ends up with a fair placement (good or bad).

Heida, your average score is higher than many members' personal bests. It amazes me that you keep turning over the best shots in your portfolio with even better ones. You may very well be the only member of this site with six consecutive 7+ challenges scores- amazing. Keep up the good work!

Nazgul- I understand your opinion of pregnant nudes, but your comment in this case offers nothing that might help the photographer improve. I can't really blame Toddh for getting defensive over a critique like that.

Nazgul

Canon EOS-20D

08/30/2004 04:51:45 PM · #46

Originally posted by Toddh:

As to the Nazgul thing, all he needs to is remove or change his incredibly tactless comment and I will say no more.

would that make you feel any better?
I still feel its tasteless even though I change the comment!

08/30/2004 05:01:38 PM · #47

Originally posted by Nazgul:

Originally posted by Toddh:

As to the Nazgul thing, all he needs to is remove or change his incredibly tactless comment and I will say no more.

would that make you feel any better?
I still feel its tasteless even though I change the comment!

I don't mind what you personally think of pregnant women, I'd just prefer you didn't use my image as a forum for your personal tastes, or at the very least be somewhat tactful about it.

Nazgul

Canon EOS-20D

08/30/2004 05:06:17 PM · #48

Originally posted by Toddh:

Originally posted by Nazgul:

Originally posted by Toddh:

As to the Nazgul thing, all he needs to is remove or change his incredibly tactless comment and I will say no more.

would that make you feel any better?
I still feel its tasteless even though I change the comment!

I don't mind what you personally think of pregnant women, I'd just prefer you didn't use my image as a forum for your personal tastes, or at the very least be somewhat tactful about it.

I never said I thought pregnant women are tasteless dont get me all wrong here.
I think posting a photo of a pregnant woman on the internet is tasteless. Too personal to share with the whole world.