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03/15/2013 09:56:34 PM · #26 |
Good eye, Brennan, but a Shire would have closer to 4-5x the mass and size of a Shetland...you're looking at 1800+lbs vs 400lb...but fwiw this beastie doesn't have any characteristics of the Shire like excessive amounts of feathering, lots of white esp on face and lower legs.
Your bet of a Welsh cob could be right. Again it's the angle that makes all the difference. Anytime I shot horses for sale you always include a full-body profile, aka conformation shot, to show the horse's proportions and how well it is put together. Then some action shots to give an idea of movement and gait, ideally under tack and at liberty. And a beauty shot like 3/4 head shot to show the lines of the head.
However as Oliver is as far as I know in the continental US, and QH are probably the most common breed in the continental US - further excaberated by their legacy as the most truly American breed (Morgan horses are essentially spinoffs from the 450+-yr-old Canadien breed) and generally are versatile horses, so my $$ rests on QH blood.
ETA: QHs are a so-called stock breed in all senses of the word. In their pure form they are not an especially tall breed, though I do recall one 17hh QH on the h/j circuit back in the 80s and 90s.
But I can easily show you pics of QHs who were no more than 15:2 in height. After all cowboys want to be able to mount from the ground easily, they usually have no time for mounting blocks :-)
A horse can be the size of a pony, but no pony can be the size of a horse. PM me if confused.
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03/15/2013 10:04:28 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
However as Oliver is as far as I know in the continental US |
No, he's in Germany I think. His web site certainly is. |
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03/16/2013 03:27:13 AM · #28 |
Thanks all, especially Brennan and Susan! I think I"ll go with Quarterhorse, sounds most probable. Size was hard to guess , about 5ft maybe a little less. When I'm back to my puter I can post a side view.
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03/16/2013 05:44:51 AM · #29 |
Tough to say even with the side view, but he has some years on him. His back is deeply settled, and his hind end is pretty lightly muscled. Quarter horse (or any American breed) was a long shot to see in Germany or anywhere else in Europe, and that hind end is not from stock horse blood which tend towards big bunchy muscles to move quickly for short periods of time. My guess a bit of Arabian blood mixed into 3/4s something else, a dash of pony, a dash of warm blood. If he were a dog, I would call him a mutt.
5 ft in horse talk is 15 hands (a "hand" is 4 inches) so he is a bit bigger than a pony (14.5 hands maximum), but in the small side of normal. Size helps hint at the breed if they are very big, or very small, so no help there. Yup that is a regular old horse.
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03/16/2013 08:00:44 AM · #30 |
| Konik a polish breed that now runs wild in many parts of EUrope. |
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03/16/2013 08:00:45 AM · #31 |
| Konik a polish breed that now runs wild in many parts of EUrope. |
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03/16/2013 08:00:46 AM · #32 |
Sorry about duplicate post
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03/16/2013 08:44:41 AM · #33 |
Oh, didn't know this was shot in Germany...in which case he could literally be anything! Now can see the swayback and loss of muscle tone, he looks like a pensioner who's earned his right to hang out in a paddock and do nothing. I agree with Brennan...'Yup that is a regular old horse' :-)
Actually, ponies top out at 14:2, of 4ft 10in at the withers (apex of shoulders) there is no 14:5...that would be 15:1. Maybe you meant 14 1/2 hands? :-)
Not long ago, I visited Juniper Hill Farms, the base for Canadian showjumper Jill Henselwood, given the grand tour by her partner Bob. Back in the 90s her big-name horse was an Oldenburg named Special Ed. Most Oldenburgs I've seen are quite tall, so I was astonished to see that the venerable ol' Special Ed is only 15:1 and quite long in the back - that's how he was able to get over jumps that were bigger than him (5'3 jumps, 5'1 horse).
Oh and I met her Olympic mount, George, who is 17:2, and I'm 5'10. So the top of my head is level with the top of his withers.
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03/16/2013 09:33:58 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by sulamk:
Konik a polish breed that now runs wild in many parts of EUrope. |
definitely not, i have seen many of tem, they look like this:
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