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12/28/2012 01:39:14 AM · #1126 |
We must be really silly and stupid over here in Europe :)
"Look at the guys and girls over there, they are in the same situation as we are but they don't have the problems we do, let's just ignore that though and continue as before without asking why. I fear change too much you see, it touches my very being" |
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12/28/2012 02:00:46 AM · #1127 |
Originally posted by jagar:
We must be really silly and stupid over here in Europe :)
"Look at the guys and girls over there, they are in the same situation as we are but they don't have the problems we do, let's just ignore that though and continue as before without asking why. I fear change too much you see, it touches my very being" |
Of course, how stupid of me, cause you're totally right, Europe is exactly like the US.
By the way, I'm curious, do you have the ability to actually think? Or do you just have the ability to partake in childish ridicule?
Message edited by author 2012-12-28 02:01:37. |
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12/28/2012 02:40:58 AM · #1128 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by jagar:
We must be really silly and stupid over here in Europe :)
"Look at the guys and girls over there, they are in the same situation as we are but they don't have the problems we do, let's just ignore that though and continue as before without asking why. I fear change too much you see, it touches my very being" |
Of course, how stupid of me, cause you're totally right, Europe is exactly like the US.
By the way, I'm curious, do you have the ability to actually think? Or do you just have the ability to partake in childish ridicule? |
A pretty angry and abusive response, must have hit a nerve, being offensive doesn't help your cause.
Are the U.S. and Europe really that different ? beyond stereotypes I think you'll find that in most aspects we are incredibly alike.
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12/28/2012 02:49:07 AM · #1129 |
Originally posted by jagar:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by jagar:
We must be really silly and stupid over here in Europe :)
"Look at the guys and girls over there, they are in the same situation as we are but they don't have the problems we do, let's just ignore that though and continue as before without asking why. I fear change too much you see, it touches my very being" |
Of course, how stupid of me, cause you're totally right, Europe is exactly like the US.
By the way, I'm curious, do you have the ability to actually think? Or do you just have the ability to partake in childish ridicule? |
A pretty angry and abusive response, must have hit a nerve, being offensive doesn't help your cause.
Are the U.S. and Europe really that different ? beyond stereotypes I think you'll find that in most aspects we are incredibly alike. |
Of course you did. I have a strong dislike of any comment that serves no purpose other than to ridicule someone's position.
Yeah, I do think the two are massively different, the fact that you think it's just stereotypes pretty much proves to me that you don't quite understand the difference.
Let me just give you one example - the county (subdivision of a state) that I live in in New Mexico is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined, and has a population density of less than 3 people per square mile.
Another interesting difference is the distinct lack of availability of good cheese in most of the US, but that's a matter for another discussion entirely. |
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12/28/2012 02:54:04 AM · #1130 |
On a related note: A relative just turned about $120,000 in profit on AR-15 clips. Retailing now @ $70 per 30-round clip, he bought 5000 @ $7 each and just dumped them in big lots to local gun brokers.
Assault rifles that were bringing in $500 a month ago are now commanding $1500 or so.
Seems to me that this has been a sadly effective driver of huge profit margins. |
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12/28/2012 03:20:58 AM · #1131 |
| second hand cigarette smoke kills. i dont see cigarette being banned to date. |
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12/28/2012 04:14:04 AM · #1132 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by jagar:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by jagar:
We must be really silly and stupid over here in Europe :)
"Look at the guys and girls over there, they are in the same situation as we are but they don't have the problems we do, let's just ignore that though and continue as before without asking why. I fear change too much you see, it touches my very being" |
Of course, how stupid of me, cause you're totally right, Europe is exactly like the US.
By the way, I'm curious, do you have the ability to actually think? Or do you just have the ability to partake in childish ridicule? |
A pretty angry and abusive response, must have hit a nerve, being offensive doesn't help your cause.
Are the U.S. and Europe really that different ? beyond stereotypes I think you'll find that in most aspects we are incredibly alike. |
Of course you did. I have a strong dislike of any comment that serves no purpose other than to ridicule someone's position.
Yeah, I do think the two are massively different, the fact that you think it's just stereotypes pretty much proves to me that you don't quite understand the difference.
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My comment was a fair representation of how the rest of the democratic world looks upon the problem you have over there, we simplify cannot fathom how you cannot see the cause, In fact when the subject comes up people just shake their heads in disbelief, if that is ridiculing you, then I'm sorry. |
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12/28/2012 06:06:12 AM · #1133 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Yeah, I do think the two are massively different, the fact that you think it's just stereotypes pretty much proves to me that you don't quite understand the difference.
Let me just give you one example - the county (subdivision of a state) that I live in in New Mexico is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined, and has a population density of less than 3 people per square mile. |
That would be a great example: if we were debating the efficacy of mass transit, but of course it has nothing more to do with why the sort of gun limits every other first world nation uses can not possibly apply to the USA, than any other random factoid would. You keep saying it can't work here because the US is so different than all the other countries that have a fraction of our per capita gun deaths and hence much lower murder rates. What do you see as the big difference? Why can't a law that works everywhere else work here? |
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12/28/2012 06:08:40 AM · #1134 |
Originally posted by crayon:
second hand cigarette smoke kills. i dont see cigarette being banned to date. |
No, you just cant smoke them in public any longer. Which clearly doesn't work for guns, short of a permit of job detail you cant carry a firearm but people do.
somebody blowing smoke in my face unless they do it EVERY single day isn't going to kill me even then it still might not. |
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12/28/2012 06:11:15 AM · #1135 |
Originally posted by jagar:
My comment was a fair representation of how the rest of the democratic world looks upon the problem you have over there, we simplify cannot fathom how you cannot see the cause, In fact when the subject comes up people just shake their heads in disbelief, if that is ridiculing you, then I'm sorry. |
Those of us here who dont own guns (or care to) shake our heads and belief as well. |
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12/28/2012 06:19:14 AM · #1136 |
Originally posted by crayon:
second hand cigarette smoke kills. i dont see cigarette being banned to date. |
How many times a day are you exposed to cigarette smoke?
In the 1970s in California you could not go into a workplace, a restaurant, a bar, or fly on an airplane without being in a blue haze of cigarette smoke. Today you can not smoke at most locations. You can not smoke on a public beach, or at the baseball park, basically it is illegal to smoke in any interior that an employee has to be in as part of their job.
We as a society are limiting the chances of secondhand smoke exposure, by limiting the rights of smokers. It is a rational set of laws for the public good. Thank goodness the Virginia tobacco grower who wrote the Constitution did not stipulate the right to smoke, or you would still be enjoying blue air in restaurants.
Message edited by author 2012-12-28 06:20:57. |
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12/28/2012 08:14:45 AM · #1137 |
from the town i used to live in.
maybe we should start arming the police officers too, oh wait...
//www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Shooting-at-Camden-County-Police-Station-185032181.html
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12/28/2012 01:03:51 PM · #1138 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by Cory:
Yeah, I do think the two are massively different, the fact that you think it's just stereotypes pretty much proves to me that you don't quite understand the difference.
Let me just give you one example - the county (subdivision of a state) that I live in in New Mexico is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined, and has a population density of less than 3 people per square mile. |
That would be a great example: if we were debating the efficacy of mass transit, but of course it has nothing more to do with why the sort of gun limits every other first world nation uses can not possibly apply to the USA, than any other random factoid would. You keep saying it can't work here because the US is so different than all the other countries that have a fraction of our per capita gun deaths and hence much lower murder rates. What do you see as the big difference? Why can't a law that works everywhere else work here? |
Culture, plain and simple. I'm astonished at how many people actually think this could work. |
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12/28/2012 01:04:51 PM · #1139 |
You did notice who's gun was used, right? |
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12/28/2012 01:15:27 PM · #1140 |
Honestly... On the subject of cops - do you REALLY want these guys to be the only ones that are armed?
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12/28/2012 02:11:37 PM · #1141 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Honestly... On the subject of cops - do you REALLY want these guys to be the only ones that are armed? |
You are LITERALLY suggesting that citizens be armed to shoot cops?! |
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12/28/2012 02:13:34 PM · #1142 |
Originally posted by Cory:
You did notice who's gun was used, right? |
that story has been updated since i posted that link. |
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12/28/2012 02:14:12 PM · #1143 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Culture, plain and simple. I'm astonished at how many people actually think this could work. |
Your arguments have the same hollow logic of slave owners defending slavery before the the civil war. Vague musings about culture and peculiar institutions and American exceptionalism do not make a rational argument. The reason people think it can work is that it works in every other first world nation. You can't just wave your hands and say it would never work here, when such laws work, and are accepted by hunters and gun entusiasts around the globe. Just shaking your head and saying it could never work is not enough to convince anyone. Your notion that we will all be safer if there are more guns in more people's hands is bizarre. |
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12/28/2012 03:03:57 PM · #1144 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Cory:
Honestly... On the subject of cops - do you REALLY want these guys to be the only ones that are armed? |
You are LITERALLY suggesting that citizens be armed to shoot cops?! |
No, I'm suggesting that they are thugs, and entrusting them to protect and defend me seems like a VERY stupid thing to do. |
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12/28/2012 03:05:23 PM · #1145 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by Cory:
Culture, plain and simple. I'm astonished at how many people actually think this could work. |
Your arguments have the same hollow logic of slave owners defending slavery before the the civil war. Vague musings about culture and peculiar institutions and American exceptionalism do not make a rational argument. The reason people think it can work is that it works in every other first world nation. You can't just wave your hands and say it would never work here, when such laws work, and are accepted by hunters and gun entusiasts around the globe. Just shaking your head and saying it could never work is not enough to convince anyone. Your notion that we will all be safer if there are more guns in more people's hands is bizarre. |
Never suggested that we would be safer with more guns in more people's hands. Actually, about 1000 posts ago I specifically said that had nothing to do with my position.
I STRONGLY prefer freedom over safety.
Effectively, it's the "cat" argument. I let my cats have a cat door, they go as they please, and do what they wish. Sure, they're much more likely to be killed or injured than if I locked them inside all the time, but it seems to me that being safe isn't really what's important when it comes down to it.
Please stop trying to lock me inside for my own safety, the risk is really quite worth it IMO.
Message edited by author 2012-12-28 15:07:55. |
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12/28/2012 03:17:41 PM · #1146 |
Originally posted by Cory:
I'm suggesting that they are thugs, and entrusting them to protect and defend me seems like a VERY stupid thing to do. |
The rogue cop was caught BY those we entrust to protect and defend us, NOT by a citizen with a tinfoil hat and an Uzi. |
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12/28/2012 03:19:51 PM · #1147 |
Originally posted by Cory:
...being safe isn't really what's important when it comes down to it. |
You make a compelling argument for gun control. The risk of elementary school children dying is not worth a personal need to feel like a man. |
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12/28/2012 03:20:14 PM · #1148 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Cory:
I'm suggesting that they are thugs, and entrusting them to protect and defend me seems like a VERY stupid thing to do. |
The rogue cop was caught BY those we entrust to protect and defend us, NOT by a citizen with a tinfoil hat and an Uzi. |
Dude.
You didn't read it.
The good cop is in fear for her life because 100's of other cops have been using police systems to look up her information, and harass her.
When this began the police were so arrogant as to claim she was WRONG for pulling him over.
Read man, read, your level of comprehension scares me, especially considering that you are much more educated than the average American. |
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12/28/2012 03:22:10 PM · #1149 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Cory:
...being safe isn't really what's important when it comes down to it. |
You make a compelling argument for gun control. The risk of elementary school children dying is not worth a personal need to feel like a man. |
So you see freedom as nothing more than stupid and childish bravado huh? (ie, "feel like a man")
honestly disgusted.
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12/28/2012 03:28:59 PM · #1150 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Read man, read, your level of comprehension scares me, especially considering that you are much more educated than the average American. |
I did read: good cop pulls over bad cop. That others have accessed her files could be for good OR nefarious reasons, but reading your files wouldn't justify arming yourself to shoot cops as you expressly implied. |
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