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12/09/2012 07:35:40 PM · #1 |
Which one and why? Any suggestion would help me to suggest Santa what I want for Christmas :)
Please share a link if this is already discussed!
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12/09/2012 08:39:27 PM · #2 |
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12/09/2012 10:24:58 PM · #3 |
Thanks Skip!
Looking at this it seems like buying 6D right now may not be good choice though on other end when I look at the spec knowing that I am paying a lot of money 6D is an option because we dont have gears everyday. |
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12/10/2012 12:14:01 AM · #4 |
I am keeping an eye on these two and do some research so I'll be back with my findings.
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12/10/2012 12:30:33 AM · #5 |
| 5DII as it's significantly cheaper with a better button layout and every other difference is basically insignificant for most people. |
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12/10/2012 01:20:09 AM · #6 |
Here in Hong Kong they retail as following:
5DMKII
USD1871.00 - body
USD2562.00 - kit with 25-105 IS L F4
6D
USD2012.00 - body
USD2812.00 - kit with 25-105IS L F4 but not yet available, most probably due to the launch of the 24-70IS L F4
As my 40D is gone (stollen) I have no use of the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon and Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX so I might be able to fetch another USD540
I am tempted by the 6D for being smaller. I do travel and I like to hike. But somehow I do not want to pay for the GPS and WIFI. Other strongs could be (not yet tested / reviewed) a better autofocus and better ISO. Otherwise I am all 5DMKII
Still depends of the insurance how it comes out...
Message edited by author 2012-12-10 01:22:47. |
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12/10/2012 01:22:34 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by HawkinsT:
5DII as it's significantly cheaper with a better button layout and every other difference is basically insignificant for most people. |
Button layout of the 6D might be preferred by those who want to handle with only one hand. The lack of joystick I am not sure about. Unfortunately the Hong Kong shops do not have displays so can not play withit yet but I might go to Canon showroom and try. |
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12/10/2012 01:47:05 AM · #8 |
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12/10/2012 02:09:40 AM · #9 |
From the very early reviews ISO performance and DR for the 6D seem to be slightly ahead of even the 5D3, so it should be decent improvement over the 5D2. Supposedly the autofocus is also amazing in low light. The 5D2 is rated down to -0.5EV while the 6D is rated to -3.0EV (center point only on these ratings).
For being fairly comparable in price it makes it a hard decision. I wish it's a decision I had to make, alas I probably won't go FF quite yet. |
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12/10/2012 08:21:41 AM · #10 |
knowing the specs and prices at the time i went with the 5D2. Now i bought mine refurbished through CLP so i saved a bit more but even still the new features arent overly impressive to me not for the additional money i would have spent.
it all depends on if you want the additional features of the 6D and are willing to pay for them. the 5d2 is still a very, very capable camera. |
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12/10/2012 08:56:28 AM · #11 |
from what i read on these, stick with your 5d Mk II, but if you can go to a 5d Mk III then you'll be better off in the long run anyway, that would be my next camera of choice, go with that rather than the 6D.. 6D's wifi and gps are the real bonuses, but even the 650D has some better handling over the 6D in some areas, exception is of course its a full frame camera... just a thought and my opinion of course...
plus the 6D isnt going to be out for a little while yet... and i should get a review from a friend on it as soon as he gets his hands on it for testing before long, he gives me any insight before he buys one...he's a pretty cluey seasoned international photographer and gets lots of kit to test and he's pretty happy with a 7D atm... |
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12/10/2012 09:01:56 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by GAP2012:
plus the 6D isnt going to be out for a little while yet... |
Huh??
Canon 6D B&H In Stock
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12/10/2012 09:07:12 AM · #13 |
I'm sure it's the same for Canon......I've noticed that the newer cameras keep getting better and better at increasingly high ISOs, and having just moved to full frame, the resolution on this new D600 I have is just mind boggling. I'm shooting very clean images at 3, 4, & 5000 ISO that are just gorgeous. No, I'm not looking to print these large at that ISO, but most of what I do is for the web or slideshows on a computer, so I am super pleased.
Plus, unless your livelihood depends on it, and you have to have the absolute best, these "entry-level" full frame cameras are a real bargain.
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12/10/2012 09:07:59 AM · #14 |
| I actually have a 6D on order... but it's not for me. Well, not only for me. It will spend it's life attached to a microscope. But it may sneak out for a rendezvous occasionally ;-) |
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12/10/2012 09:40:57 AM · #15 |
waiting on the first price drop in this guy. Gonna head over to B&H to evaluate if i can use it as a second body. if things go my way, I'll be an owner in 3 months or so. if it doesn't feel right, i might have to just wait things out.
I notice you've posted threads with similar queries Girish. My recommendation is to try and find a location where you can actually take a card with you to shoot some pics with the cameras you're interested in. Get a feel for how they measure up in your hands and go for the one that not only shoots images you like, but also feels right to hold. I know B&H allows you to tack on a lens to see how the camera feels with it - so ild go with something that feels similar to your most used lens.
edit: if you have bigger hands but like the overall feel of the camera, ask to try it with a grip on it.
Message edited by author 2012-12-10 09:50:27. |
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12/10/2012 10:23:53 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by GAP2012:
plus the 6D isnt going to be out for a little while yet... |
Huh??
Canon 6D B&H In Stock |
i had read they werent shipping yet; even though they had them on order... |
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12/10/2012 10:28:56 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I'm sure it's the same for Canon......I've noticed that the newer cameras keep getting better and better at increasingly high ISOs, and having just moved to full frame, the resolution on this new D600 I have is just mind boggling. I'm shooting very clean images at 3, 4, & 5000 ISO that are just gorgeous. No, I'm not looking to print these large at that ISO, but most of what I do is for the web or slideshows on a computer, so I am super pleased.
Plus, unless your livelihood depends on it, and you have to have the absolute best, these "entry-level" full frame cameras are a real bargain. |
its all about preference.. nikon and canon are going in diferent directions while still competing,, i looked at the comparison between the two and even the d800 and 5d mk III and while marginal on the d600 in some ways in others not so... as for the d800 and 5d the images look far cleaner and the ISO is higher on the canon... but you get more MP's on the nikon which as we know isnt always best.. so preference is individual, always true.. |
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12/10/2012 10:33:21 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Devinder:
waiting on the first price drop in this guy. Gonna head over to B&H to evaluate if i can use it as a second body. if things go my way, I'll be an owner in 3 months or so. if it doesn't feel right, i might have to just wait things out.
I notice you've posted threads with similar queries Girish. My recommendation is to try and find a location where you can actually take a card with you to shoot some pics with the cameras you're interested in. Get a feel for how they measure up in your hands and go for the one that not only shoots images you like, but also feels right to hold. I know B&H allows you to tack on a lens to see how the camera feels with it - so ild go with something that feels similar to your most used lens.
edit: if you have bigger hands but like the overall feel of the camera, ask to try it with a grip on it. |
absolutely that would be nice... but with the higher spec cameras if you rely on the standard settings of each camera its gonna be like choosing apples v pears just because they all have slight differences in the best setups verses the default ones... the number of programmable functions etc...stick everything on auto and you may not see the differences that would be more apparent when you set it up for specific shots... some operations like AF points and zones can have whole booklets for their own setting up... but in principle it would be nice... |
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12/10/2012 10:48:38 AM · #19 |
I'm getting the 5d Mark II with the 24-105mm!!!
Eventually.
Hoping that by spring of next year I will have it.
Maybe by then the price will drop a little more.
I wanted to upgrade to the 60D. But I think I'll hold out for this one. Then, I will have not only an amazing camera, but a wonderful walk-around lens as well.
Just gotta wait it out a few more months. Sigh.
ETA: It's going to be my bday gift. :)
April 25! Not TOO terribly much longer. Maybe even a little sooner, if I'm lucky. :)
Message edited by author 2012-12-10 10:53:37. |
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12/10/2012 11:15:38 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Tiberius:
As my 40D is gone (stollen) I have no use of the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon and Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX so I might be able to fetch another USD540
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The Tamron you mention is a full-frame lens, so I wouldn't consider it completely useless. |
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12/10/2012 06:20:09 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Tiberius:
As my 40D is gone (stollen) I have no use of the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon and Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX so I might be able to fetch another USD540
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The Tamron you mention is a full-frame lens, so I wouldn't consider it completely useless. |
I know is full frame and is not completely useless, still...
The downside of full frame is that one really need good glass. The (financial) effort to get the FF body is just the beginning.
Sincerely I am also tempted to ditch the whole dSLR and go completely 4/3 with the Oly OMD. Great ISO, portability, weather proof. Trade off is the DOF.
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12/10/2012 09:23:19 PM · #22 |
Sometimes having greater DOF can be useful.
When you shoot in low light at f1.4 you get a greater DOF which you would not be able to get with FF when shooting without flash.
I understand f1.4 on m43 looses two stops of DOF compared to FF = f2.8
So if you compare it to say a APSC camera does that mean it would loose only one stop = f2.0? |
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12/10/2012 10:15:25 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by RamblinR:
Sometimes having greater DOF can be useful.
When you shoot in low light at f1.4 you get a greater DOF which you would not be able to get with FF when shooting without flash.
I understand f1.4 on m43 looses two stops of DOF compared to FF = f2.8
So if you compare it to say a APSC camera does that mean it would loose only one stop = f2.0? |
This thread explains quite clearly. |
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12/10/2012 10:25:19 PM · #24 |
I am waiting for the insurance see what I can get back.
I am fed up a bit with research prior to buying. I might simply go the cheaper the better.
Sorry  pgirish007 to hijack the thread. I will post only related matters. |
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12/11/2012 02:49:41 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Tiberius:
Originally posted by RamblinR:
Sometimes having greater DOF can be useful.
When you shoot in low light at f1.4 you get a greater DOF which you would not be able to get with FF when shooting without flash.
I understand f1.4 on m43 looses two stops of DOF compared to FF = f2.8
So if you compare it to say a APSC camera does that mean it would loose only one stop = f2.0? |
This thread explains quite clearly. |
A pro-photographer once said to me about APS-C v his FF camera and i quote "i cant use it, i just don't understand it, thats why i shoot Full Frame, because i understand it and know what its doing" kinda made me laugh but its true... |
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