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12/04/2012 03:02:47 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
If you've been paid via gifts for your "companionship", does that make you a prostitute? |
Probably. Why, what gift are you trying to score? |
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12/04/2012 03:04:04 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
If you've been paid via gifts for your "companionship", does that make you a prostitute? |
Probably. Why, what gift are you trying to score? |
if that's the case, call me a certified Whore, since i give my services away for free (or the promise of a little bit of fun while i`m performing my service!) ;)
Message edited by author 2012-12-04 15:04:28. |
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12/04/2012 03:04:59 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
If you've been paid via gifts for your "companionship", does that make you a prostitute? |
That may be the one profession in which you get what you pay for. |
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12/04/2012 04:10:22 PM · #54 |
if the profession doesn't require you to be licensed or certified to be recognized as a professional than all it takes is the know how and proper equipment.
It IS that simple.
Definition of PROFESSIONAL
participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs |
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12/04/2012 04:14:42 PM · #55 |
I have professionally carried live chickens from coop to transport bins, five at a time. (I could've done six at a time, but the bins held multiples of five.)
If they peck, just give them a good shake and they'll behave.
Chicken soup, yum.
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12/04/2012 04:32:43 PM · #56 |
ya'll can go round-and-round over what is or isn't a pro, but the bottom line is that in the absence of licensing, there is no set definition. the irs has no determination, nor care, as they don't care how you get your money as long as they get their cut. the state doesn't care, either, as long as you pay your taxes. the bbb doesn't care, the bank doesn't care, not even the "professional" associations care. as long as you pay your taxes and dues, you can call yourself whatever you like.
if you are delivering what people are expecting and willing to pay for, it doesn't matter. and, even if you screw up bad enough to get torched on the internet, it won't matter what you call yourself...it just might be a little harder to get work. |
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12/04/2012 04:56:27 PM · #57 |
Thisis a sensitive issue all over the place, in all countries, all geographies.
As far as I'm concerned (as the law should too) if you take money to do a job or trade or craft you should call yourself a professional. This doesen't mena tha tyou'r good or bad, just that you make money out of it. for you it is a profession, portime or fulltime.
In every profession there are good professinals and bad professionals. This is not the point that for me is the center of the queston. You can be very good, the best in a particular field, and you price yourself acconrdingly. Some clients will want to pay premium price for your quality. Some will recognise your quality but will not be able to get the money to hire you and will go for a not so good not so priced photog. And some clients will simply not see the diference in quality, thus not seeing the poing in hiring a good photog. For me this is all legite and is part of the business we are in. This is the same in all the economical activities.
For me the center of the question is that some of this so called pros, or even those whom doesen't consider themselves pros but charge to do their craft, are just skipping the rules tha treal pros use. If they charge they must pay taxes as a photog, pay licenses if there are one to be obtained, etc.
Runnnig a pseudo business on the dark side of the rules/law it hurst everybody, even themselfs. Prices that are simply not covering expenses, unrealistic expectation from costumers that never are met and thus hurting the reputation of a professional class that they want to be intitled for but don't really want to assume.
An dfor me this is what is hurting the business.
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12/04/2012 05:27:56 PM · #58 |
well... that's good to know... (even though I already knew the definition of professional)
I can start calling myself a pro.
I did a "job" a while back... made no real profit (it was really just something to do... but they INSISTED on paying something)...
so after they received the product, I was paid.
therefore, I am now a pro. ?
or would that only consist if I was soliciting/marketing my services/products for money?
guess I'm not a pro... I didn't do it for livelihood or gain (not financially, at least)
Message edited by author 2012-12-04 17:28:51. |
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12/04/2012 06:09:42 PM · #59 |
Professional photographers are like chefs, and photographers like cooks.
Message edited by author 2012-12-04 18:10:36. |
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12/04/2012 06:19:05 PM · #60 |
I have sold 1 photo...does that make me a pro too...YEAH!!! Or does that make me semi-pro....crap ) - :
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12/04/2012 06:48:08 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
well... that's good to know... (even though I already knew the definition of professional)
I can start calling myself a pro.
I did a "job" a while back... made no real profit (it was really just something to do... but they INSISTED on paying something)...
so after they received the product, I was paid.
therefore, I am now a pro. ?
or would that only consist if I was soliciting/marketing my services/products for money?
guess I'm not a pro... I didn't do it for livelihood or gain (not financially, at least) |
You are a pro if you want to start calling yourself one. |
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12/04/2012 06:56:29 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
If you've been paid via gifts for your "companionship", does that make you a prostitute? |
I suppose it does... And I have! You made my day... I'm such a hooker! |
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