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10/01/2012 09:09:10 PM · #1 |
I'm not a techy, so this may be a dumb question.
I got a new-to-me original Canon 5D. I took some pictures with it on Saturday, but Saturday night when I plugged the camera in to my computer through the USB port, the computer did a search for drivers and couldn't find any. I did a web search which led me to Canon's website that says there is no driver. But, I can't open the pictures right from the camera by plugging it into my computer. Now, it doesn't even search for a driver if I plug it in, but the computer is still not recognizing the camera. I guess it's not a huge deal because I can throw the CF card in my 50D and open it that way, or I could look for the card reader I have somewhere, but it bothers me that I can't just open the photos from my camera.
Also, out of curiosity, is there a way to check the shutter count on a 5D? I have the EOSInfo thing on my computer that works for my 40D and 50D, but it doesn't work for the 5D (probably because the computer doesn't even know the camera is there).
If it makes any difference, I have Windows 7. |
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10/01/2012 09:15:26 PM · #2 |
//www.eoscount.com/
make sure you open it in internet explorer.
i just used it the other day. it works. you need to pay $1.50 to see shutter count, but you will know if it works before you pay since the camera model will show up. |
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10/01/2012 09:16:26 PM · #3 |
Yikes!
You're plugging in the camera? There's basically not a worse way to do this.
Easy help: Go buy a card reader (yes buy, I know you have one, but you want a USB 2.0 reader), your life will be better, and you will smile. Not only will you not need a driver, but it's CRAZY fast compared to the from-body transfer.
As per shutter count, the 5D is built on a different platform, software wise, so there is no way to use EOSInfo or any other utility I am aware of.
Good news? The 5D is a slow ass beast in terms of frame rate, I don't read very often about shutter failure on the 5D, probably both because it is a high-durability shutter, and because they usually aren't used as fast-shooting cameras. The shutter count thing, IMO, is more important on bodies that were likely used to shoot a ton of images very fast.
Now, here's the BIG deal... You just bought the worlds best dust-trap. The 5D's sensor is so good at attracting dust that you can just open the body and leave it in a room for two hours if you want to avoid having to dust or vacuum... Seriously, it's time for you to go buy a Copperhill cleaning kit.
Message edited by author 2012-10-01 21:19:01. |
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10/01/2012 09:17:12 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
//www.eoscount.com/
make sure you open it in internet explorer.
i just used it the other day. it works. you need to pay $1.50 to see shutter count, but you will know if it works before you pay since the camera model will show up. |
Did you use that on the 5Dc or the 5DMkII? I ask because there is a huge difference in the base platform software wise....
ETA: I just read the site, the 5D classic is not supported.
Message edited by author 2012-10-01 21:23:10. |
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10/01/2012 09:26:46 PM · #5 |
I actually have a card reader somewhere! I just don't use it. It's probably under my arse right now deep in the cushions of the couch. I just prefer to plug the camera in. Am I a bad girl? lol
Thanks, Cory, for the reassurance that I shouldn't be concerned with the shutter count. The body is in almost pristine condition (except for a small scratch near the shutter button), so I'm thinking it wasn't actually used too much.
Thanks for the link, Mike. I'll check it out.
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10/01/2012 09:27:23 PM · #6 |
| Darn. So Canon would be the only one to tell me if I was curious enough? |
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10/01/2012 09:37:40 PM · #7 |
i use it on a 5d2, when you plug the camera in the utility should tell you if it not supported, where the shutter count it says "AVAILABLE" in the field and then you need to pay.
i didn't check the supported models.
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10/02/2012 12:09:07 AM · #8 |
The unfortunate fact of the matter is, there is no 64-bit WIA driver for the 5D, and apparently there never will be. According to Canon, there is a hardware-based reason why this is so. It's really unfortunate, because it means the 5D cannot be shot tethered using a 64-bit OS, at least not without some crazy gyrations like a WIA driver install on a virtual XP machine.
The best bet for image transfer, in any case, is a good, fast card reader. |
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10/02/2012 12:13:56 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
... at least not without some crazy gyrations like a WIA driver install on a virtual XP machine.
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Heh... You call that crazy gyrations? I keep a set of XP VM's for a variety of reasons (sandboxing, isolation, backwards compatibility, etc)... I honestly advocate the approach for a ton of reasons. Even for "regular" users.
Now, some of the stuff I do that requires me to utilize five or six machines spread across the globe, via two or three VPN connections along with a host of other routing crap, that's what I call crazy gyrations. ;)
Message edited by author 2012-10-02 00:14:37. |
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10/02/2012 02:20:00 AM · #10 |
No way to tell shutter count but good for 200k easily
I've got the original CDs and I've shot tethered many times on my 64 bit mac using Lightroom???
Great camera still double up with mine to save lens changing |
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10/02/2012 03:33:48 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Yikes!
You're plugging in the camera? There's basically not a worse way to do this.
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So why? That's the way it is supposed to be done, I always do it and even shoot tethered sometimes, never had a problem. |
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10/02/2012 03:35:36 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by h2:
Originally posted by Cory:
Yikes!
You're plugging in the camera? There's basically not a worse way to do this.
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So why? That's the way it is supposed to be done, I always do it and even shoot tethered sometimes, never had a problem. |
Shooting tethered is fine, but for image transfer? It's a last resort, especially on the 5D - for two reasons, one is that it's just stupid slow, the other is that it uses battery that I'd rather not have to recharge. But hey, if it works for you, then go for it. |
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10/02/2012 04:08:47 AM · #13 |
I always plugged my 20d in till I got my 5d even with a £3 card reader it's so
Much quicker, you don't risk having your camera pulled off the desk. Happened to me once but I do have dogs and a little boy, only downside is camera time date doesn't auto update like when plugged in (if set up in canon software) and I've gotten places got camera out only to find no cf card flashing and it's at home in the card reader doh |
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10/02/2012 05:21:07 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
I always plugged my 20d in till I got my 5d even with a £3 card reader it's so
Much quicker, you don't risk having your camera pulled off the desk. Happened to me once but I do have dogs and a little boy, only downside is camera time date doesn't auto update like when plugged in (if set up in canon software) and I've gotten places got camera out only to find no cf card flashing and it's at home in the card reader doh |
Slow is, when I have to remove CF card from camera, take card reader out of drawer, place card in reader, plug it to Mac, copy fles manually into a folder I first have to create, rename the files manually to match my filing system, unmount card, remove from reader, put reader back to drawer, put card back into camera.
Fast is, when I plug the cord that is always hanging from the USB slot of my monitor into the camera, have Canon software starting automatically, select a folder and let the software do the renaming and transfer while I can continue with my regular work. |
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10/02/2012 07:51:13 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by h2:
Slow is, when I have to remove CF card from camera, take card reader out of drawer, place card in reader, plug it to Mac, copy fles manually into a folder I first have to create, rename the files manually to match my filing system, unmount card, remove from reader, put reader back to drawer, put card back into camera... |
Fast is when I put the camera bag down, grab the card and stick it in the slot on the USB 3.0 reader that is always attached to my machine, launch Lightroom, click "Import" and sit back and watch while it all happens automatically at 90MB/s, including arranging files as *I* want them, cataloging them, applying default settings, and what have you. But horses for courses :-) |
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10/02/2012 08:23:28 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by h2:
Slow is, when I have to remove CF card from camera, take card reader out of drawer, place card in reader, plug it to Mac, copy fles manually into a folder I first have to create, rename the files manually to match my filing system, unmount card, remove from reader, put reader back to drawer, put card back into camera... |
Fast is when I put the camera bag down, grab the card and stick it in the slot on the USB 3.0 reader that is always attached to my machine, launch Lightroom, click "Import" and sit back and watch while it all happens automatically at 90MB/s, including arranging files as *I* want them, cataloging them, applying default settings, and what have you. But horses for courses :-) |
Yes that sounds fast. I don't have a USB3 slot, though, and also I didn't know LR would copy the files to the HD while importing |
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10/02/2012 10:22:53 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by h2:
Yes that sounds fast. I don't have a USB3 slot, though, and also I didn't know LR would copy the files to the HD while importing |
Lack of a USB 3.0 connection isn't necessarily problematic; you're on a Mac, so I assume you have FireWire 800 (or at vey least FW400) available. there are good card readers for FW connections that will perform far faster than USB 2.0. It's what I used before I had a USB 3.0 connection. Look here for data on card-to-computer transfer speeds for various readers/connection types
ETA: Yes, Lr will do pretty much all of the heavy lifting for you. I always advise Lr users to buy a good book on Lr and read the section on how to configure import settings prior to installing and creating a catalog. When configured to your liking it can literally cut 75% of your image management time out of your workflow.
Message edited by author 2012-10-02 10:25:22.
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10/02/2012 10:49:08 AM · #18 |
Book? Is that one of those heavy things where I always fail to find the power plug?
Kidding of course, I guess I could save a lot of time if I just invested some of it into reading manuals and tutorials, but I always preferred learning by doing. Literally, I have no education in post processing or imaging technology (other than from the darkroom). |
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10/02/2012 10:54:23 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by h2:
Literally, I have no education in post processing or imaging technology (other than from the darkroom). |
Neither do I, all self-taught and I know my knowledge has a *lot* of gaps. I too tend to just plunge in and learn as I do, but in the case of Lr, I learned (the hard way) that I could have saved myself a *lot* of time and effort had I taken the time up-front.
In my defense, I'm an old RAWShooter Essentials user who got Lr initially as a freebie through the buy-out. However I did not really use Lr until 2.X, so I really did have the opportunity to do it right from the start, I just elected not to :-P
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