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09/10/2012 03:35:24 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by markwiley:
I do not know of any downsides to early decision.
Good luck -- it can be an exciting and stressful time. Sounds like you will be losing one of your models. |
WHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I'm already having a hard time with her going to college -- I hadn't thought about the photography implications. :( |
At least it's for education.... and it goes more quickly than you could dream possible... and she'll be home a lot to visit. Promise:)
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09/10/2012 03:57:50 PM · #27 |
| My 9 year old has determined that the ONLY school he wants to attend is MIT in Cambridge, MA. I cry a little bit when I think about what that will cost. I tell him he needs to be the kid that they want there so bad that they'll pay him... |
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09/10/2012 04:00:53 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
My 9 year old has determined that the ONLY school he wants to attend is MIT in Cambridge, MA. I cry a little bit when I think about what that will cost. I tell him he needs to be the kid that they want there so bad that they'll pay him... |
Just remind him that if Click and Clack (the "Tappet Brothers" from Car Talk) can get in, he has a chance too! |
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09/10/2012 07:41:14 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I can't seem to get a handle on whether or not early decision is a good or bad idea. |
My daughter went off to college a few days ago, and went the early decision route. It was her first choice, so she was happy when she got in. The details are what hurt. It may be a coincidence, but the school she went early decision on decided we should pay full tuition at 52k a year. The other fives schools that accepted her offered scholarships between half off, to one school in that offered a full ride scholarship.
Because she went early decision, I am sure the school she committed to felt that they didn't have to be competitive with other schools on her offer. We got rather angry at them and got a few thousand out of them, but I believe that we would have gotten a much, much better offer had we not gone early decision. |
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09/10/2012 07:50:34 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Venser:
I'm assuming college implies university? |
It can, but it does not have to. A college (in American English) is an institution that offers undergraduate degree programs and grant associates or bachelor degrees. A university offers graduate degree programs and grant masters and PHd degrees, and usually, but not always, offers undergraduate programs as well which are overseen by various colleges within the university. |
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09/10/2012 07:58:41 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by Venser:
I'm assuming college implies university? |
It can, but it does not have to. A college (in American English) is an institution that offers undergraduate degree programs and grant associates or bachelor degrees. A university offers graduate degree programs and grant masters and PHd degrees, and usually, but not always, offers undergraduate programs as well which are overseen by various colleges within the university. |
I know the difference, I just never know when Americans are talking about them whether they're using the synonymous term or not. Just wanted to clarify before I offered my two cents.
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09/10/2012 08:03:21 PM · #32 |
Hey Wendy,
Early decision for the schools your daughter would have absolutely no second thoughts about (1st choice) is usually the best idea.
Other schools can wait.
I had a buddy who Early decisioned Upenn, and the rest of his choices were on normal schedule. Worked out in his favor. I believe he told me early decision shows commitment so it can't hurt the application and may even help. If shes unsure about the school, early decision doesn't really make sense right?
He also got "need blind aid", which helped him out plenty. If money's an important factor, then look keenly at the school's policy before coming to a decision
Message edited by author 2012-09-10 20:05:39. |
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09/10/2012 08:20:58 PM · #33 |
Last year as my daughter was applying her school brought in the head of admissions from Stanford to explain the process, and the biggest thing I got out of the night was an insight into what motivates the admissions department at top schools.
They never want to accept anyone who will turn down their offer.
If an offer is rejected, it is a strike against the department, and if too many offers are rejected, the president of the university starts looking for a new head of admissions. As parents we think of the admissions board as so formidable, all powerfull and mysterious; it was strange seeing this woman who had all the power to make or break childrens' futures, as being afraid of having those children say "thanks, but no thanks". Even at extremely selective schools like Stanford, the goal is getting as close to zero rejected offers, so they love the binding acceptance, the early offer, and even having family who attended the school in the past. She said legacies were accepted more often simply because they had a 30% lower turn down of offers, after all her department does't care about donations, only about hitting all her offers.
Message edited by author 2012-09-10 20:22:15. |
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09/10/2012 08:33:55 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Venser:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by Venser:
I'm assuming college implies university? |
It can, but it does not have to. A college (in American English) is an institution that offers undergraduate degree programs and grant associates or bachelor degrees. A university offers graduate degree programs and grant masters and PHd degrees, and usually, but not always, offers undergraduate programs as well which are overseen by various colleges within the university. |
I know the difference, I just never know when Americans are talking about them whether they're using the synonymous term or not. Just wanted to clarify before I offered my two cents. |
Based on your response, it actually didn't seem that you did understand the difference as it relates to the US post high school education system. In the US, college and university are gerenally considered the same thing, and it has been that way for decades. Yes, Brennan clearly stated how universities are set up with individual colleges making up the universities, but many US universities still call themselves colleges, including some of the most prestigious in the nation (Dartmouth College, Boston College, The College of William and Mary to name a few). |
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09/10/2012 08:39:22 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Last year as my daughter was applying her school brought in the head of admissions from Stanford to explain the process, and the biggest thing I got out of the night was an insight into what motivates the admissions department at top schools.
They never want to accept anyone who will turn down their offer.
If an offer is rejected, it is a strike against the department, and if too many offers are rejected, the president of the university starts looking for a new head of admissions. As parents we think of the admissions board as so formidable, all powerfull and mysterious; it was strange seeing this woman who had all the power to make or break childrens' futures, as being afraid of having those children say "thanks, but no thanks". Even at extremely selective schools like Stanford, the goal is getting as close to zero rejected offers, so they love the binding acceptance, the early offer, and even having family who attended the school in the past. She said legacies were accepted more often simply because they had a 30% lower turn down of offers, after all her department does't care about donations, only about hitting all her offers. |
This is great information. Thanks for posting. |
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09/10/2012 08:55:55 PM · #36 |
Hi. I'm not sure if this is useful advice or not, so I'll speak strictly from experience.
Which ever school your daughter picks needs to "fit" her. I don't mean just what classes are offered but what feels like a place she will get the most out of it. Post secondary school (college, university) is not just about studying to get a degree but its about all the other experiences a school has to offer.
I had my heart sent on Boston University. It had everything I thought I wanted in a school. I got in. I also got into UCONN (University of Connecticut). At that time it was a known "party school", a "safety school", a place for some where you did not want to go. I was dead set against it. My parents forced me to tour it. In about 10 minutes, I chose UCONN. It was a better "fit". There was nothing specific. There was just something about it that fit ME.
I had experiences there that to this day I pass on to interns that I teach at work. Perhaps BU may have opened up different doors for me being near Boston. But I have no regrets.
UCONN got me my first internship. I actually took that job out of college, even though it was not the best paying job. But, it didn't matter. I took it because I was going to travel. I spent a little time in different parts of the country. I traveled to Japan twice, once for 2 weeks, once for 3 months. Eventually, I left and got the job I have now. It pays twice what I was getting. But, everything I have experienced has been because it was the right thing for me.
I'm sure there are fields and jobs which a particular school makes it easier to get into. But ultimately, it is the individual that sets the future path, not the school.
I feel as though I'm rather successful and good at what I do. By now, no one talks of the school they went to except to say "hey, I went there". Now, its all about what the individual can do and offer everyone else.
My advice: Your daughter needs to pick the school that "fits" her learning style, her personality, her interests.
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