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08/17/2004 12:37:49 PM · #1			 | 
		
		You may want to check out this article about software programs that may behave differently in Windows XP Service Pack 2.
 
 Programs that may behave differently in Windows XP Service Pack 2
 
 Program Version Vendor 
 
 App  Version  ISV  
 Star Trek StarFleet Command III  v1.0  Activision  
 Medieval Total War  1  Activision  
 Pagemaker  7  Adobe  
 PageMaker (German)  6.5  Adobe  
 Photoshop Elements  2  Adobe  
 Ad-Shield  3  Ad-sheild  
 ERDisk for AD  6.7.128.0 Aelita  
 Nero 6 Ultra  6  Ahead  
 Nero Bruning ROM  5.5.6  Ahead  
 Al Mawrad (Arabic)  2003  Al Ariss  
 PhotoClick  ---  Al Maalin  
 AOL  9  AOL  
 AOL Toolkit  1.13.2  AOL  
 Uno  1  Aris Buenaventura  
 Dead Man's Hand  1  Atari  
 MotoRacer  3  Atari  
 Scrabble  v3.0  Atari  
 Unreal II  1  Atari  
 Unreal Tournament 2003  1  Atari  
 Unreal Tournament Game of the Year Edition  1  Atari  
 Extra Enterprise 2000 2000  ---  Attachmate  
 Extra Personal Client 6.5  ---  Attachmate  
 Extra! Bundle for TCP/IP 6.6  ---  Attachmate  
 KEA! 340 v5.1  ---  Attachmate  
 Command Antivirus  4.9  authentium  
 AutoCAD 2004 2004  ---  Autodesk  
 bv-Admin Mobile 7  ---  Bind View  
 StarCraft  1.05  Blizzard  
 BitDefender  7.2  Blizzard  
 Starcraft  v1.11  Blizzard  
 Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos Collector's Edition  v 1.0  Blizzard  
 Patrol for Windows 2000 3.4.0.11  ---  BMC  
 Word Perfect Family Pack 5 - Encyclopedia Britannica Ready Reference  2003  Britannica  
 WISO Sparbuch  2004  Buhl  
 InnoculateIT  ---  CA  
 MpegCraft DVD  x  Caropus  
 Citrix ICA client  7.1  Citrix  
 FileMaker Pro (German)  5  Claris  
 ArcServe  6.61  Computer Associates  
 ArcServe 7.0  ---  Computer Associates  
 BrightStor ArcServe Backup 9.0  ---  Computer Associates  
 eTrust  7  Computer Associates  
 eTrust 6.0.100  ---  Computer Associates  
 Etrust EZArmor  AE Test  Computer Associates  
 Corel Draw 9 - PhotoPaint (German)  9  Corel  
 WordPerfect Office  11  Corel  
 1st nd Grade Excelerator Curious George Studio 1  ---  Countertop Software  
 Serious Sam: The Second Encounter  1  Croteam  
 Retrospect Client  x  Dantz  
 Dave's Quick Search Toolbar  3.16  Dave Bau //notesbydave.com/toolbar/doc.htm  
 Diet KaZaa  2.52  Diet KaZaa  
 The Lion King Animated Storybook  1  Disney  
 DivxPlayer  2.5.3  Divx  
 Command & Conquer Generals  ---  EA Games  
 Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour  ---  EA Games  
 Earth & Beyond  v.1  EA Games  
 Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2  1  EA Games  
 SimCity 4  v1.0  EA Games  
 Freedom Force  1  Electronic Arts  
 NBA Live 2000  1  Electronic Arts  
 CheckSoft Home and Business  2004  Eliibrium  
 EDM File System Agent 3.1  ---  EMC  
 Chess Advantage III: Lego Chess  ---  Encore  
 High School Advantage 2003  ---  Encore Software  
 Encyclopedia Britannica 2000 Deluxe  1  Encyclopedia Britannica  
 Smarterm Office 10  ---  Esker.com  
 Smarterm Office 11  ---  Esker.com  
 Diskeeper  8  Executive Software  
 Der Brockhaus Multimedia (German)  2004  F.A. Brockhaus  
 JAWS 5.0  5  Freedom Scientific  
 F-Secure  5.52  F-Secure  
 Drivers & Utilities CD  ---  Fujitsu-Siemmens  
 Cute FTP 5.0  ---  GlobalScape  
 Conflict: Desert Storm  ---  Gothamgames  
 Window-Eyes Professional  4.2  GW Micro  
 HP Quick Launch Buttons  ---  HP  
 HP SJ 6350  ---  HP  
 HPSetup 42NAheBLU1 SW build  ---  HP  
 Exceed 8 ---  Hummingbird  
 Host Explorer 8  ---  Hummingbird  
 Rational's Clearcase  2003  IBM  
 ViaVoice for Windows Personal Edition 10  10  IBM  
 SmartSuite Millennium Edition ScreenCam (German)  9.5  IBM Lotus  
 ICQ Pro  3916  ICQ  
 iMesh  3.1  iMesh  
 TurboCAD Professional  9  IMSI  
 Installshield  8  Installshield  
 Quicken 2003 Premier Home and Business  2003  Intuit  
 Quicken Deluxe 2001  2001  Intuit  
 Kazaa  2.52  Kazaa  
 Kerio Personal Firewall  4  Kerio  
 WinRoute  4.25  Kerio  
 Playzone Preschool - Kindergarten - Jump Start Spelling  1  Knowledge Adventure  
 Live Journal Semagic  1.3.9.6  Live Journal  
 SmartSuite Millennium Edition - Fast Site  ---  Lotus  
 Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic  ---  Lucas Arts  
 Merriam Webster's Reference Library 2003 - Journey to the Planets  2003  M-2K  
 ColdFusion MX for J2EE 6  ---  Macromedia  
 Freehand 8 (German)  8  Macromedia  
 MapSend Direct Route  ---  Magellan  
 McAfee Internet Security Suite 2004  6  McAfee  
 McAfee Parental Controls  1  McAfee  
 McAfee VirusScan  4.51  McAfee  
 Netshield 4.5  ---  McAfee  
 VisursScan  7  McAfee  
 Encarta Enzyklopädie  2002  Microsoft  
 Age of Empires II: Age of Kings  ---  Microsoft  
 Application Center 2000 SP2  ---  Microsoft  
 BizTalk 2004  ---  Microsoft  
 CMS  2001  Microsoft  
 Comabt Flight Simulator 3  1  Microsoft  
 Excel  2003  Microsoft  
 Halo Combat Evolved (Arabic and Hebrew)  Trial  Microsoft  
 MapPoint Europe  2004  Microsoft  
 Microsoft Operations Manager  2000 SP1  Microsoft  
 MS License  3.7  Microsoft  
 MSBN  ---  Microsoft  
 MSN  7.02  Microsoft  
 MSN 9 QFE1 and 9.1 beta  9  Microsoft  
 Office  11  Microsoft  
 Office - Power Point 2002 (German)  2002  Microsoft  
 Office Access 2002  2002  Microsoft  
 Office System - Power Point  2003  Microsoft  
 Office XP Access  10  Microsoft  
 Office XP Professional Excel 10.0 SP2  ---  Microsoft  
 Office XP SP2 - PowerPoint  11  Microsoft  
 Office XP Standard  10  Microsoft  
 Outlook 2000  9  Microsoft  
 Outlook 2002  10  Microsoft  
 Outlook 2003  11  Microsoft  
 Outlook Web Access  x  Microsoft  
 Revenge of Arcade  v1.0  Microsoft  
 Server Administrator Tools  ---  Microsoft  
 SMS  2.0 SP5  Microsoft  
 SMS  2.0 SP5  Microsoft  
 SMS  2003 RC2  Microsoft  
 SMS  2003 RTM  Microsoft  
 SMS  ---  Microsoft  
 SNA Server 4.0 SP4  ---  Microsoft  
 SQL  ---  Microsoft  
 SQL  7  Microsoft  
 SQL 2000a 2000a SP3  ---  Microsoft  
 TaxSaver  1999  Microsoft  
 Virutal PC  2004  Microsoft  
 Visual Basic  6  Microsoft  
 Visual C++ (16-bit)  2  Microsoft  
 Visual Studio  7  Microsoft  
 Visual Studio  97  Microsoft  
 Visual Studio .NET Enterprise 2003  ---  Microsoft  
 Visual Studio 98  6  Microsoft  
 Windows Sharepoint Services  2  Microsoft  
 Windows Sharepoint Services  ---  Microsoft  
 Word  XP  Microsoft  
 Works Suite 2004  2004  Microsoft  
 WSS  2  Microsoft  
 Musicmatch Jukebox  8.20.0107  Musicmatch  
 StyleSelector  x  NEC  
 Veritas  ---  NEC  
 AppManager  5.01  NetIQ  
 End2End 4.1  ---  NetIQ  
 File and Storage Administrator 2.1 (191067)  ---  NetIQ  
 VewNow 1.05  1.05  NetManage.com  
 View Now 1.0  1  NetManage.com  
 ViewNow 1.05  1.05  NetManage.com  
 McAfee Remote Desktop 32  ---  Network Associates  
 ESET NOD32 for windows  ---  Nod32  
 Norman Personal Firewall 1.40  AETEST  Norman  
 Norman Personla Firewall  4  Norman  
 Becky  12.09.01   
 KaZaa Media Desktop  2.6.3   
 PhotoImpact 7 (Traditional Chinese)  7   
 Sony: PCV-W510G  510G   
 Super Collapse (Demo Only)  2   
 UX Theme MultiPatcher  1.5.1   
 PhotoExplosion Deluxe  1  Nova Development  
 NovaNet Web  3.6  NovaStor  
 Pinnacle Studio  Beta  NX - Pinnacle Studio 9 cause data execution prevention errors  
 Instant CD/DVD  7  Pinnacle  
 Real Player (free version)  10  Real Networks  
 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield  1  Red Storm  
 Action Request System  x  Redmedy  
 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne  1  RockStar Games  
 NASCAR Racing 2003 Season v2003  ---  Sierra  
 Tribes 2  1  Sierra  
 Harvard Graphics  3  Software Publishing Corp  
 SonicWALL Virus Scan  ---  SonicWall  
 Sony: PCV-V200G:  ---  Sony  
 VirusSecurity 2004  2004  Sourcenext  
 BootSkin  x  Stardock  
 Ghost Corporate Edition 7.5  ---  Symantec  
 Norton Antivirus 2003  2003  Symantec  
 Norton Systemworks 2003 - GoBack Personal Edition  Other MS  Symantec  
 Norton Systemworks 2003 Professional Edition  2003  Symantec  
 Norton Systemworks 2004 - GoBack32  Beta  Symantec  
 PCAnywhere 11  ---  Symantec  
 Smantec Antivirus Corporate Edition  8  Symantec  
 Talkworks Pro  x  Symantec  
 Winfax Pro  10  Symantec  
 Roboword Pro (JAPANESE)  6  Technocraft  
 Style XP  2  tgtsoft  
 Eclipse  3  Unknown  
 Midnight Outlaw: Illegal Street Drag  1  Valuesoft  
 Roller Coaster Factory  v3.0  Valuesoft  
 Elite Forces Vietnam: Special Assignment 2 ver 1  ver 1  Valusoft  
 Midnight Outlaw Illegal Street Drug  v1.0  ValuSoft  
 Backup Exec  9  Veritas  
 Backup Exec  9.1.4691  Veritas  
 Backup Exec 8.6.1  ---  Veritas  
 Backup Exec 9.1  ---  Veritas  
 BackupExec  9.1  Veritas  
 BackupExec  8.6.1  Veritas  
 Bakcup Exec 9.1  ---  Veritas  
 Volume Manager 3.1  3.1  Veritas  
 Command & Conquer Red Alert 2  v1.0  Westwood  
 Command and Conquer Red Alert 2  1  Westwood  
 Windgate  5.2.3  WinGate  
 Reflection  9  WRQ  
 Reflection  9.03  WRQ  
 Reflection  10  WRQ  
 Reflection X  10  WRQ  
 Reflection X  11  WRQ  
 Reflection X 10  ---  WRQ  
 Xoreax Incredibuild  ---  Xoreax  
 Yahoo  x  Yahoo  
 Yahoo instant Messenger  x  Yahoo  
 Yahoo Messenger  6.0.0.167  Yahoo  
 PC Magazine Business Winstone Benchmark  2004  Ziff Davis  
 ZoneAlarm  5.0.590  ZoneLabs
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08/17/2004 12:39:56 PM · #2			 | 
		
		damn that list is long :/...
 I see no reason why someone should install this upgrade just now!
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08/17/2004 12:49:47 PM · #3			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Nazgul:   damn that list is long :/...
 I see no reason why someone should install this upgrade just now!  |   
 this is a standard cya list. i haven't read all the details, but from what i understand, this service pack is primarily geared at plugging security holes.  you are free to take advantage of it or ignore it... |  
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08/17/2004 12:55:34 PM · #4			 | 
		
		fyi, from ms updates:
 
 Available soon, Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) will bring users the latest security updates and innovations from Microsoft. It will establish stronger security settings that help defend against viruses, hackers, and worms and will provide unique new security features designed to make it easier for you to protect your PC.
 
 Get Ready for SP2: Turn On Automatic Updates Today
 The best way to ensure you get SP2 when it is released is by turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. Visit the Protect Your PC site to let us turn it on for you or follow these manual steps—either way you'll get SP2 automatically as Microsoft releases it.
 
 Turning on Automatic Updates today allows your PC to begin downloading important updates automatically, including the latest version of Windows Update. It also ensures you will receive future updates, such as SP2.
  
 you may want to check out this page:
 service pack 2 info |  
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08/17/2004 01:00:25 PM · #5			 | 
		
		Given Microsoft's past history I would hardly take this as a CYA list. 
 I would take it as a very serious warning.
 
 If it were me I would make certain that your automatic update is set for user approval before downloading and installing.
 
 Originally posted by skiprow:   Originally posted by Nazgul:   damn that list is long :/...
 I see no reason why someone should install this upgrade just now!  |   
 this is a standard cya list. i haven't read all the details, but from what i understand, this service pack is primarily geared at plugging security holes.  you are free to take advantage of it or ignore it...  |  
 
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08/17/2004 01:00:32 PM · #6			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Nazgul:   damn that list is long :/...
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 The key words though are "may" and "differently".
 
 They're not saying that all those programs definitely WILL be affected, neither are they saying that they'll all stop working. I'm a great one for not trusting MS but even I find it hard to believe they'd release a service pack that broke all those programs - not least because half that list is taken up with their programs!!
 
 As skiprow says, it's an ass-covering list - kind of like the list of "possible side effects" you get with drugs. Much like you don't believe that your hayfever pill will make your hair fall out, don't believe that SP2 will actually stop everything on that list from running.
 
 (that said, I intend to install it on my laptop first and check that I can still work before updating my desktop!)
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08/17/2004 01:06:27 PM · #7			 | 
		
		or better format your computers and install Linux on them!
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08/17/2004 01:07:34 PM · #8			 | 
		
		I am with service pack 2, win xp pro corporate
 I am using office XP, photoshop 7, dreamweaver and so on ......
 and I don't have any problems
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08/17/2004 01:13:06 PM · #9			 | 
		
		---->>>I am with service pack 2, win xp pro corporate
 I am using office XP, <<<<----
 
 There´s your problem mister
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08/17/2004 01:13:39 PM · #10			 | 
		
		It is my understanding that it has not been released yet?
 
 Did your Corporation get an advanced beta version for testing?
 
 Originally posted by sinner:   I am with service pack 2, win xp pro corporate
 I am using office XP, photoshop 7, dreamweaver and so on ......
 and I don't have any problems  |  
 
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08/17/2004 01:21:32 PM · #11			 | 
		
		| the most anticipated problems have to do with firewall configuration to allow server/file sharing applications proper channels through the new firewall.  for all intents and purposes, it has no effect on stand alone applications accessing local data. |  
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08/17/2004 01:26:53 PM · #12			 | 
		
		Originally posted by RHoldenSr:   It is my understanding that it has not been released yet?
 
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 It is released and available for download (250 MB).  They say that the updates will be available via the regular windows update shortly.  (Link is here: //www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx )
 
 I've installed it and not had any problems. |  
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08/17/2004 01:29:42 PM · #13			 | 
		
		ick! Windows is EVIL I tell you! Run, run away while you still can! (And get a Mac!)
 
 tee hee - yeah, this talk drives my husband apeshit too but it must be working 'cause I caught him drooling over G5's at apple.com! |  
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08/17/2004 01:31:11 PM · #14			 | 
		
		Originally posted by digistoune:   ick! Windows is EVIL I tell you! Run, run away while you still can! (And get a Mac!)
 
 tee hee - yeah, this talk drives my husband apeshit too but it must be working 'cause I caught him drooling over G5's at apple.com!  |   
 
 Well who does not drool over G5´s?
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08/17/2004 01:47:44 PM · #15			 | 
		
		remeber this is not a BUG or a problem, its a feature :p
 
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08/17/2004 01:54:24 PM · #16			 | 
		
		| I installed SP2, and had to disable the MS firewall, as it kept disconnecting me from my dsl, no problem, I already had another firewall. Maybe the two didn't get along. |  
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08/17/2004 02:14:14 PM · #17			 | 
		
		I'm not into a "My chosen OS is better than yours" war but I would like to point out something that I found poignant regarding developers and why some programs may function differently after installing a Service Patch that is more secure.
 
 Raymond Chen a Sr Microsoft Software Architect in his blog "The Old New Thing" (//weblogs.asp.net/oldnewthing/Rss.aspx) comments on poor design and development practices by C developers on the x86 platforms and how that as Windows has developed the culture has been to maintain backwards compatibility in memory modes and now that certain "holes" have been patched or closed, the developers who never learned the updated way to handle memory in Windows but who still made use of older, less secure memory allocations and calls may find that their programs cease to function or function poorly.  
 
 I'm not in a position to support or deny Chen's claims but its not like you can't take it up with him if you want to argue the inherent flaws in the Windows OS design over the years (or in the current Service Pack release).  Honestly if you post something to his blog, I doubt he'd shy away from answering you in a forthright manner that may include a frank view of his opinion regarding design tradeoffs that have been made (which he or other senior programmers may not have liked) or he may point out how just about any other system has flaws, too.  Regardless at least you'll find an informed audience who can carry on fairly involved discussion and a large portion of whom may at any point support your opinions of Windows.
 
 Hope this resource helps.
 
 Kev
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