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07/27/2012 12:00:57 PM · #26
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07/28/2012 02:47:57 AM · #27
As others have said, your 1s are due to the theme, or more accurately, the voter's expectations for that theme. As an artist you entered the right type of shot. You made people feel something and that motivated their vote. Those that did well and got 10s did so largely on technical grounds, which at the end of the day doesn't mean a whole lot, except for those still learning the basics.

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07/29/2012 08:24:15 AM · #28
Again... spanking a child is not abuse. BEATING a child is abuse. One simply shows an awkward moment that is normal in most homes with well-raised children. The other clearly indicates fists are being used : never appropriate. Now the other could have meant abuse -- like beating the kid all over the body with the belt as a true weapon -- but that is not conveyed at all.

A person walking up to their dog with a stick for example. Normal read would be playing fetch. However the intent could have been to beat the dog with the stick as a club. But the photo wouldn't convey the intent of the photographer in that case.
07/29/2012 09:04:55 AM · #29
Originally posted by klkitchens:

Again... spanking a child is not abuse. BEATING a child is abuse. One simply shows an awkward moment that is normal in most homes with well-raised children. The other clearly indicates fists are being used : never appropriate. Now the other could have meant abuse -- like beating the kid all over the body with the belt as a true weapon -- but that is not conveyed at all.

A person walking up to their dog with a stick for example. Normal read would be playing fetch. However the intent could have been to beat the dog with the stick as a club. But the photo wouldn't convey the intent of the photographer in that case.


I see what you're saying -- but I'd consider a belt going beyond spanking. Spanking is done with an open hand. Belts can do a lot more damage.
07/29/2012 09:57:06 AM · #30
The intent was to convey abuse and not punishment. I used the belt and really clenched around it to try and illustrate that this was not punishment but was wrong abuse. The ribbon winner clearly showed that in a much clearer way. Not sure I will reshoot it or not, I suppose if the inspiration hit i would but I doubt I will do it just to do it but I did learn some stuff from it.
07/29/2012 10:28:21 AM · #31
OK, so I don't interact a lot on this site, but I do observe A LOT.. And what I have noticed is that challenge details, focus, composure, etc. don't really matter on how your photos score. People vote highly for pictures that are nice to look at, regardless of any technical details. The one challenge that I have entered I scored "ok" in, but there were still people that gave me 1's.. who knows why, I only give ones to people that don't meet challenge details.. But, I got outscored by out of focus pictures that did not even come close to meeting the challenge criteria.. Why? It's because my picture was not "fun" to look at, and theirs was even though it should have never been entered in that challenge. So, my point is, don't worry about scores that people give, YOU have a great picture that fit the challenge and had good technical details, but people don't like looking at "abuse" therefore you got a low score.

That my take...
07/29/2012 11:50:46 AM · #32
Both images are powerful. I wasn't able to vote on either challenges, but have i had, i would have given pamb's a 7 and yours a 6.

I would agree that the negative feeling may have invited the 1s, but it's totally ok. You shot your image with the perfect idea and you did it quite well. It was a risky interpretation of the theme, and unfortunatley, the majority of the voting crowd did not quite like it.

In general, submitting an image that is likely to draw a negative emotion is a risky game to play here on dpc. You cannot expect it to gain the popular vote. You can be thankful if it does. But you just can't expect it rate very high. What is important is if you are pleased with your interpretation of the challenge, not minding if others may not like it, as long as you have been able to come up with the image that best suits the theme according to your interpretation. You chose not to submit a photo that easily falls under the popular category. You chose to submit one that takes courage to submit. Bravo for that.

Here's my own photo for "abuse".


And here's one for "suicide"


I expected both to draw negative reactions, that's why i wasn't disappointed when the results came out. The latter actually gave me an HM, and for that i am thankful.
07/29/2012 04:59:50 PM · #33
Originally posted by LandzEnca:

What is important is if you are pleased with your interpretation of the challenge, not minding if others may not like it, as long as you have been able to come up with the image that best suits the theme according to your interpretation. You chose not to submit a photo that easily falls under the popular category. You chose to submit one that takes courage to submit. Bravo for that.

If the "purpose" of posting your art is to generate a response in the viewer, then perhaps the "ideal" voting pattern would be the opposite of the normal bell-curve distribution, even if the average vote and placement in the challenge results don't reflect the quality of the work or the effect on the viewers.

These hypothetical distributions each spread out 100 votes to achieve an average vote of 5.5 (statistically-predicted mean), one representing a technically-competent but uninspiring image, and one which elicits strong but polarized reactions; personally, I'd prefer the latter.



In reality, I'm far more likely to get this one than this one ... ;-)
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