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07/27/2012 04:38:32 AM · #1
I have just upgraded to my first DSLR Canon EOS 1100D.
But, I feel that some features of this camera are serious limitations, as follows:

1. LCD cannot be tilted. Are there any DSLR cameras which have this feature?

2. Mirror movement causes a lot of noise and jerk. Can it be locked?

Please help.

Message edited by author 2012-07-27 04:39:10.
07/27/2012 05:01:30 AM · #2
The next model up, the 600d has a tiltable LCD ... the 1100d is cheaper because, among a couple of other things, it doesn't have a tiltable screen

some of the noise will also be the shutter, I don't think the 1100d has the option to lock the mirror up, however, if you switch to the LCD liveview then it will lock the mirror anyway
07/27/2012 06:23:59 AM · #3
Personally these aren't limitations and a dslr has so much more possibilities than a point and shoot. I only use the LCD to focus manually on macro shots I'd never use it for shooting.

07/27/2012 06:26:23 AM · #4
you have the absolute base model DSLR that Canon makes.

the thing with camera bodies is the more expensive bodies don't really offer an increase in Image quality. what you get are better AF, faster burst rates, weather sealing, efficient control layout, better ISO performance, durability, etc. so if your camera is lacking in features that you require, and may consider returning and upgrading.

the tilt lcd screen for Canon didn't come out until the 60D and now the t3i had it and even still its looked at as a gimmick (although i believe that stems from jealousy), but its main purpose is for shooting video.

im surprised to here that the mirror moment causes a lot of jerk. while this can be true, i dont think its apparent nor do yo need to worry about it in most cases, especially if you are using a stabilized lens, camera shake from hand holding at slower shutters is usually a far more prevalent problem than the mirror causing issues. if you are doing tripod macro work or using an extreme telephoto on a tripod where any infinitesimal movement can cause out of focus, you should be able to lockup the mirror, look in your manual.

i have never needed to use mirror lockup.

Message edited by author 2012-07-27 06:28:44.
07/27/2012 06:37:58 AM · #5
Unfortunately, the 1100D does not have a mirror lock up function, nor a quiet release mode.

As Mike noted, however, vibration from mirror movement actually only effects a very specific shutter speed (somewhere from about 1/4 sec up to 1/60, depending upon focal length). Also keep in mind that on a crop sensor, you have a smaller mirror, so less vibration. Full frame and medium format cameras suffer FAR more due to the size of their mirrors.

The tiltable LCD screen is available on a variety of camera bodies today, but the reason it has only recently been added is because it was only made feasible once live-view was invented, which really was only a scant few years ago. As such, people still mostly shoot through the viewfinders with their DSLRs.
07/27/2012 06:47:52 AM · #6
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:



The tiltable LCD screen is available on a variety of camera bodies today, but the reason it has only recently been added is because it was only made feasible once live-view was invented, which really was only a scant few years ago. As such, people still mostly shoot through the viewfinders with their DSLRs.


to add shooting through the viewfinder is a much better way to shoot, the AF is faster and its not even close. the only time i ever use my tilt screen in on a tripod when i can manually focus by zooming, or when i dont want to lay on the ground and have time to get a shot.

what lenses do you have? if you have an issue with a jerky shutter, just leave the IS on all the time, even on a tripod.

07/27/2012 07:21:49 AM · #7
Originally posted by bobonacus:

The next model up, the 600d has a tiltable LCD ... the 1100d is cheaper because, among a couple of other things, it doesn't have a tiltable screen

some of the noise will also be the shutter, I don't think the 1100d has the option to lock the mirror up, however, if you switch to the LCD liveview then it will lock the mirror anyway


Thanks. I will also try 600D.
Is this correct that switching to liveview automatically locks the mirror up?
07/27/2012 07:26:20 AM · #8
Originally posted by mike_311:

...if you are doing tripod macro work or using an extreme telephoto on a tripod where any infinitesimal movement can cause out of focus, you should be able to lockup the mirror, look in your manual.

I have gone through the manual thoroughly, even the pdf version supplied in the CD. It doesnot mention anything about the mirror lock.
07/27/2012 07:30:23 AM · #9
Originally posted by mike_311:

[quote=spiritualspatula]
...the only time i ever use my tilt screen in on a tripod when i can manually focus by zooming, or when i dont want to lay on the ground and have time to get a shot.

I need to use the tilt screen while taking shots of stage performances.
When I am not on the stage and need to take shots by holding the camera above the level of my head.
07/27/2012 07:33:49 AM · #10
Originally posted by kbhatia1967:

Originally posted by bobonacus:

The next model up, the 600d has a tiltable LCD ... the 1100d is cheaper because, among a couple of other things, it doesn't have a tiltable screen

some of the noise will also be the shutter, I don't think the 1100d has the option to lock the mirror up, however, if you switch to the LCD liveview then it will lock the mirror anyway


Thanks. I will also try 600D.
Is this correct that switching to liveview automatically locks the mirror up?


Yes. It's a little bit different from a traditional MLU. Here is some further reading liveview instead of MLU Live view or MLU
07/27/2012 07:37:55 AM · #11
like Derek said, your camera doesn't include it. i wrongly assumed it was a feature on all DSLRs.

when you go to view view the mirror flip up so the shutter can open and expose light to the sensor so that the lcd can display the image. but on my 60D, the mirror will drop back down and then take the image, no sure the reason it behaves that way. and im not sure if this is the case on all camera bodies.

try it out, if your live capture is nearly silent then it works, if you hear the mirror slapping up and down, then no...
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