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07/25/2012 03:36:17 PM · #1 |
I know I should know this, but how do I save something in CMYK instead of RGB
Ok, I figured out how to do it, but it changes the colors dramatically. Any way to have it saved in CMYK without changing the color selections?
Message edited by author 2012-07-25 15:42:22. |
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07/25/2012 03:40:59 PM · #2 |
First option under the IMAGE choice is MODE, you will find it there. |
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07/25/2012 04:09:43 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by tanguera: I know I should know this, but how do I save something in CMYK instead of RGB
Ok, I figured out how to do it, but it changes the colors dramatically. Any way to have it saved in CMYK without changing the color selections? |
No. You can improve it, you can adjust it after conversion, but you are compressing a palatte/gamut of 16.7 million (potential) colors (24-bit RGB) into a printable palatte of about 7000 colors in CMYK. Many many colors in RGB are simple incapable of being reproduced in print. |
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07/25/2012 04:15:23 PM · #4 |
Ah, thanks General. I'll have to see what I can do as the change is so dramatic as to not be acceptable. |
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07/25/2012 04:15:46 PM · #5 |
Are you getting a color shift, or a bit of banding, or just losing a degree of gradation?
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07/25/2012 04:26:48 PM · #6 |
The original has text in almost neon colors, and in the CMYK version they're almost pastel. |
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07/25/2012 04:32:46 PM · #7 |
"Neon" colors don't work in CMYK.
What are you trying to reproduce? If it's "graphical' enough you may be able to print it in 3 or 4 Pantone colors, where you can mix up special blends (including metallic inks), rather than the CMYK process colors. |
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07/25/2012 05:27:09 PM · #8 |
Thanks, everyone. Got client approval on my modified CMYK file. |
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07/25/2012 05:31:53 PM · #9 |
Funny, I literally was thinking this morning, "who ever uses CMYK anymore?" My print guy prefers the profile in RGB. |
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07/25/2012 05:58:30 PM · #10 |
I've not used it until now, so apparently, not that many people, Jason! |
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07/25/2012 07:28:00 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: Funny, I literally was thinking this morning, "who ever uses CMYK anymore?" My print guy prefers the profile in RGB. |
Anybody that's still doing 4-color process printing (conventional industrial color printing presses) is using CMYK inks.
R. |
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07/25/2012 08:38:01 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: Funny, I literally was thinking this morning, "who ever uses CMYK anymore?" My print guy prefers the profile in RGB. |
If you have a client who has a "style book" where there are specific pantone colors you need to use for backgrounds and text to send a consistent message, CMYK still is the best option, RGB has too much wiggle room. |
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07/25/2012 09:17:35 PM · #13 |
Good to know. For when I have a client :-) |
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07/25/2012 11:02:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB: Originally posted by DrAchoo: Funny, I literally was thinking this morning, "who ever uses CMYK anymore?" My print guy prefers the profile in RGB. |
If you have a client who has a "style book" where there are specific pantone colors you need to use for backgrounds and text to send a consistent message, CMYK still is the best option, RGB has too much wiggle room. |
Pantone colors and CMYK are very different, and Pantone > CMYK conversion also presents problems. Pantone colors are created by mixing specific proportions of a set of base colors of inks, and then printing those as a solit color. CMYK colors are created by printing varying-sized tiny dots of the four inks next to each other to create the illusion of a composite color.
Many "digital presses" use their own, proprietary internal RGB > CMYK conversion algorithms, and operators would rather convert the customer's RGB files than have a customer who knows nothing about the CMYK gamut do it themselves.
Sometime you should drop into a print shop still using 4-C presses and ask if you can look at the various color sample books so you can compare the colors actually available. Remember that what you see on-screen when you "proof" the CMYK file is actually an RGB approximation of the CMYK colors, and that once you have ink on paper it will probably look at least a little different. |
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07/26/2012 01:41:26 AM · #15 |
I DO have to spend some time with printers and the various methods of printing an image I edit in RGB. I have a feeling this sort of issue will present itself with increasing frequency... |
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07/26/2012 01:59:10 AM · #16 |
I found an interesting article on CMYK and neon colors that basically says, ya can't get it in process color.
As long as you and your customers are aware, achieving ANY fluorescent ink reproduction in cmyk is NOT possible whatever Illustrator, Photoshop or InDesign says. Especially a "double bump" (2X) fluorescent! Special pigments are used in the inks that are just not reproducible in process color. This goes the same for Pantone 021, 032, 072, reflex blue, rubine red, and many other pms conversions.
If logo reproduction or company colors come into play, be sure that customers understand pms-to-cmyk conversions are far from perfect. A process color imaging guide is a small investment to be sure customers know what they will be getting and in the long run will save you $$. |
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