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07/23/2012 12:30:47 PM · #1 |
Why does it seem that sometimes people go out of their way to antagonize others?
As artists, we all have moments, mood shifts, and every now and then a *really* bad day....
Sometimes they turn here and are obviously out of sorts, yet it seems like someone will show up and push just once too often.
Why does this happen? It just seems mean.....
Just as a caveat, I know sometimes I can be a cranky curmudgeon myself, but I really try not to set someone off intentionally.
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07/23/2012 12:39:26 PM · #2 |
Indeed. I am quite the pot-stirrer, but even I know just to not poke certain folks when they're obviously on edge all the time anyhow.
Then again, I don't know... It's a bit like living in an abusive relationship - what's better? Just to let them abuse everyone a bit, and quietly allow it, because we don't want to make them "worse", or is it better to just go ahead and say what the heck, and just help them to self-detonate?
Dunno, I suppose I'd kind rather someone just presses the button and lets them blow it off, since otherwise it just sits around fuming for a much longer time...
*shrug*
My question is why can't people just get a fricken grip? life sucks sometimes, for everyone, no matter who you are, what you have, where you live, etc... Life is hard, and if your way of dealing with it is to blame other people for making you angry and making you feel bad, well... I have no real sympathy for such "victim" mentalities. |
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07/23/2012 12:42:21 PM · #3 |
I see so many times when this community really pulls together for one of its own that I just don't understand it when someone goes the other way with it.
I can't tell you how often that sometimes a kind word, or just letting someone know you care has made an impression here.
There are *so* many truly decent and giving people here at DPC.
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07/23/2012 12:52:01 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I see so many times when this community really pulls together for one of its own that I just don't understand it when someone goes the other way with it.
I can't tell you how often that sometimes a kind word, or just letting someone know you care has made an impression here.
There are *so* many truly decent and giving people here at DPC. |
True, and it's something that I hope we NEVER cease doing..
Let me give you an analogy:
Sometimes giving a homeless person a meal, or a few dollars feels really great, and makes a significant, if only temporary, impression.
My issue is when that meal or few dollars becomes expected, and the homeless person is at my door waiting at 6am every morning... And if I don't want to give them that money or meal, then I'm somehow a jerk.
Sorry, but those who come here expecting that we will tolerate bad behaviors (writing them off to - oh, he's had a hard year), and flip-flop back and forth between behaviors, and hysterically react to criticism..... Well, let's just say that those are some bits of this community that I won't miss greatly.... I wish them well, and hope for the best, but I certainly do not want to continually deal with the internet's version of section 8.
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07/23/2012 03:33:45 PM · #5 |
Some nests can be safely poked, some nests will explode. The problem is the people who don't know and don't care which they poke.
The thread that was removed was an example of an extremely poor decision. I'm hoping it was out of ignorance, and hoping that the aggressor just didn't know the history of the nest. That being said -- playing pinata with an unknown nest does seem stupid.
However, Ivo's poke in the other thread doesn't seem like a problem. It was a small poke, and the bees need to get used to branches blowing into the nest a bit. It's the nature of nature, and there's no reason to get so riled up over something so innocuous. Yet look what happens -- everything gets derailed, and half the people support the poker and the other half the pokee.
Having a bland, boring site, with everyone incredibly careful about what they say is a bad place to be. These are only words.
I'll repeat that.
These are only words.
Pokers -- Stop purposely trying to hurt people.
People -- stop taking everything as a personal insult. Sometimes it's extremely justified -- the majority of times it's not. Figure out which is which.
Message edited by author 2012-07-23 15:34:51.
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07/23/2012 03:52:04 PM · #6 |
Why do people get so upset over posts on an Internet forum from people they've most likely never met in real life? (I figure if they've them they most likely won't go out their way to antagonise each other)
It's superbly easy to ignore people on the Internet, even easier than it is for them to be idiots. It requires effort to post something stupid / aggressive / irritating / whateverthecrimeis, it requires no effort whatsoever to ignore it and go back to real life or something else either within or without DPC that you find enjoyable.
In short, stop getting so stressed about it, go do something you enjoy! |
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07/23/2012 04:02:22 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Why do people get so upset over posts on an Internet forum from people they've most likely never met in real life? (I figure if they've them they most likely won't go out their way to antagonise each other)
It's superbly easy to ignore people on the Internet, even easier than it is for them to be idiots. It requires effort to post something stupid / aggressive / irritating / whateverthecrimeis, it requires no effort whatsoever to ignore it and go back to real life or something else either within or without DPC that you find enjoyable.
In short, stop getting so stressed about it, go do something you enjoy! |
That's because many times people on the internet don't have a real life, so this is their real life. I was that way when I was 17. I was on a little miniature version of an internet with a talk program before the internet existed. Back in the days of 110 baud, bagels and oregon trail. An inventive 18 year old wrote a talk program. I spent most of my evenings from 11pm-2am (when the network went down for the night) on that talk program. I took things extremely seriously.
Now I have a life, so I have something to go back to when it's irritating here.
But I see a number of people on here that remind me of my 17 year old self. You can tell that they feel they have nowhere else to go.
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07/23/2012 04:05:15 PM · #8 |
110 baud? And I thought I was around early with 9600 and BBS! :)
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
Why do people get so upset over posts on an Internet forum from people they've most likely never met in real life? (I figure if they've them they most likely won't go out their way to antagonise each other)
It's superbly easy to ignore people on the Internet, even easier than it is for them to be idiots. It requires effort to post something stupid / aggressive / irritating / whateverthecrimeis, it requires no effort whatsoever to ignore it and go back to real life or something else either within or without DPC that you find enjoyable.
In short, stop getting so stressed about it, go do something you enjoy! |
That's because many times people on the internet don't have a real life, so this is their real life. I was that way when I was 17. I was on a little miniature version of an internet with a talk program before the internet existed. Back in the days of 110 baud, bagels and oregon trail. An inventive 18 year old wrote a talk program. I spent most of my evenings from 11pm-2am (when the network went down for the night) on that talk program. I took things extremely seriously.
Now I have a life, so I have something to go back to when it's irritating here.
But I see a number of people on here that remind me of my 17 year old self. You can tell that they feel they have nowhere else to go. |
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07/23/2012 04:22:08 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Some nests can be safely poked, some nests will explode. The problem is the people who don't know and don't care which they poke.
The thread that was removed was an example of an extremely poor decision. I'm hoping it was out of ignorance, and hoping that the aggressor just didn't know the history of the nest. That being said -- playing pinata with an unknown nest does seem stupid.
However, Ivo's poke in the other thread doesn't seem like a problem. It was a small poke, and the bees need to get used to branches blowing into the nest a bit. It's the nature of nature, and there's no reason to get so riled up over something so innocuous. Yet look what happens -- everything gets derailed, and half the people support the poker and the other half the pokee.
Having a bland, boring site, with everyone incredibly careful about what they say is a bad place to be. These are only words.
I'll repeat that.
These are only words.
Pokers -- Stop purposely trying to hurt people.
People -- stop taking everything as a personal insult. Sometimes it's extremely justified -- the majority of times it's not. Figure out which is which. |
i think you have that seriously the wrong way round, i guy albeit a more established member posted a im out here throw praise at me to persuade me not to go thread up and a guy said cool cya and the other guy exploded into multiple c use words. there was only one person at fault there and that was fred.
if someone is going to react like that hes better off not here.
1993 for me first internet action 9.6k modem and nude pics of pamela anderson, i was 13 haha :)
Message edited by author 2012-07-23 16:22:48. |
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07/23/2012 04:46:01 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Some nests can be safely poked, some nests will explode. The problem is the people who don't know and don't care which they poke.
The thread that was removed was an example of an extremely poor decision. I'm hoping it was out of ignorance, and hoping that the aggressor just didn't know the history of the nest. That being said -- playing pinata with an unknown nest does seem stupid.
However, Ivo's poke in the other thread doesn't seem like a problem. It was a small poke, and the bees need to get used to branches blowing into the nest a bit. It's the nature of nature, and there's no reason to get so riled up over something so innocuous. Yet look what happens -- everything gets derailed, and half the people support the poker and the other half the pokee.
Having a bland, boring site, with everyone incredibly careful about what they say is a bad place to be. These are only words.
I'll repeat that.
These are only words.
Pokers -- Stop purposely trying to hurt people.
People -- stop taking everything as a personal insult. Sometimes it's extremely justified -- the majority of times it's not. Figure out which is which. |
i think you have that seriously the wrong way round, i guy albeit a more established member posted a im out here throw praise at me to persuade me not to go thread up and a guy said cool cya and the other guy exploded into multiple c use words. there was only one person at fault there and that was fred.
if someone is going to react like that hes better off not here.
1993 for me first internet action 9.6k modem and nude pics of pamela anderson, i was 13 haha :) |
Heh... I agree with both of you!!
Firstly, Fred has always been one to snap randomly and impressively, and often does exactly what was described.
Secondly, it would have been politer to simply ignore him. Frankly this wasn't even as bad as some of his other cry-for-help posts. I actually feel bad for the guy, but recognize that there is absolutely nothing we can really do to help him. And maybe, just maybe, the tough love, "STFU and get on with it" approach might yield better results, as we can clearly see that our gentle handling hasn't really improved his life much. |
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07/23/2012 04:55:57 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Some nests can be safely poked, some nests will explode. The problem is the people who don't know and don't care which they poke.
The thread that was removed was an example of an extremely poor decision. I'm hoping it was out of ignorance, and hoping that the aggressor just didn't know the history of the nest. That being said -- playing pinata with an unknown nest does seem stupid.
However, Ivo's poke in the other thread doesn't seem like a problem. It was a small poke, and the bees need to get used to branches blowing into the nest a bit. It's the nature of nature, and there's no reason to get so riled up over something so innocuous. Yet look what happens -- everything gets derailed, and half the people support the poker and the other half the pokee.
Having a bland, boring site, with everyone incredibly careful about what they say is a bad place to be. These are only words.
I'll repeat that.
These are only words.
Pokers -- Stop purposely trying to hurt people.
People -- stop taking everything as a personal insult. Sometimes it's extremely justified -- the majority of times it's not. Figure out which is which. |
i think you have that seriously the wrong way round, i guy albeit a more established member posted a im out here throw praise at me to persuade me not to go thread up and a guy said cool cya and the other guy exploded into multiple c use words. there was only one person at fault there and that was fred.
if someone is going to react like that hes better off not here.
1993 for me first internet action 9.6k modem and nude pics of pamela anderson, i was 13 haha :) |
Naw. If you poke a live tiger, not in a cage, then you have my respect. If you poke a obviously wounded dog that's having problems getting around, you get no respect. Myth busters proved that shooting fish in a barrel is easy -- it's the shock that kills them, you don't even have to aim. what fun is that?
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07/23/2012 04:56:43 PM · #12 |
and 9600? you guys are young pups!! I remember when 1200 was screamin' fast!
Message edited by author 2012-07-23 17:34:11.
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07/23/2012 06:54:45 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
and 9600? you guys are young pups!! I remember when 1200 was screamin' fast! |
Youngling. Grog remember beating small rock on big rock to signal hunting party when mammoth is coming.
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