renaming RAW files? - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

07/03/2012 12:41:50 AM · #1

For validation, it says you need original unaltered files straight from the camera. Is it alright though if i rename my files, to make cataloging them easier?

MattO

Nikon D4

07/03/2012 12:51:13 AM · #2

If you renamed it, then it would not be an untouched file.

Matt

07/03/2012 12:52:02 AM · #3

can an SC give an opinion on this?

Tiny

Apple iPad mini 4

07/03/2012 07:21:32 AM · #4

Interesting question ?

NiallOTuama

Google Pixel 2

07/03/2012 07:28:12 AM · #5

The name of the file shouldn't matter. It's the exif inside that is used for validation. The date of last modification would change, but not the internal (camera) date. It still might be a rule, but I would be very surprised indeed if it was. The name doesn't really provide any useful information straight from the camera. Indeed, renaming images, in particular for expert editing challenges, would surely be more descriptive.

Just my opinion. I don't know what the SC think...

For cataloguing I use light room and add tags. No need to do any renaming in that case.

Message edited by author 2012-07-03 07:33:41.

bvy

Sigma DP1x

07/03/2012 07:30:49 AM · #6

Make a copy for renaming (cataloging) and retain the original with original file name and original everything else -- at least until some time after the challenge has ended.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

07/03/2012 11:44:46 AM · #7

i went through my old submissions just now on my external harddisk. all of my entries that were validated in the past were also renamed before I sent them in. I haven't entered in a while so i guess i just forgot about that.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

07/03/2012 11:46:33 AM · #8

Re-naming a RAW file has no effect on the validity of the file as an original. That's one of the benefits of shooting RAW for DPC entries. They are *much* easier to maintain as valid originals.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

07/03/2012 11:50:34 AM · #9

Originally posted by kirbic:

Re-naming a RAW file has no effect on the validity of the file as an original. That's one of the benefits of shooting RAW for DPC entries. They are *much* easier to maintain as valid originals.

yeah, so it seems. I also read in a forum that you can shoot RAW+Jpeg, and submit the jpeg version as the original even if it's a small jpeg. didn't realize you could do this.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

07/03/2012 11:51:52 AM · #10

Originally posted by kirbic:

Re-naming a RAW file has no effect on the validity of the file as an original. That's one of the benefits of shooting RAW for DPC entries. They are *much* easier to maintain as valid originals.

What he said :)

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

07/03/2012 12:13:02 PM · #11

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

...I also read in a forum that you can shoot RAW+Jpeg, and submit the jpeg version as the original even if it's a small jpeg. didn't realize you could do this.

I'd be careful with this, especially in Basic. If you processed your actual entry from the RAW original, but submitted the JPEG as your original file, it might not be possible for the SC to verify that it's possible to reproduce your end result from the JPEG. For instance, you could pull back highlights in RAW conversion that would be irrevocably blown in the JPEG, so you'd never be able to replicate your RAW-based editing results using the JPEG.
In any case, the only benefit of submitting the JPEG is faster upload time. Big deal. If I processed from RAW, I'd submit the RAW as the original. But that's just me.

DCNUTTER

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

07/03/2012 05:44:25 PM · #12

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:
...I also read in a forum that you can shoot RAW+Jpeg, and submit the jpeg version as the original even if it's a small jpeg. didn't realize you could do this.

I'd be careful with this, especially in Basic. If you processed your actual entry from the RAW original, but submitted the JPEG as your original file, it might not be possible for the SC to verify that it's possible to reproduce your end result from the JPEG. For instance, you could pull back highlights in RAW conversion that would be irrevocably blown in the JPEG, so you'd never be able to replicate your RAW-based editing results using the JPEG.
In any case, the only benefit of submitting the JPEG is faster upload time. Big deal. If I processed from RAW, I'd submit the RAW as the original. But that's just me.

I agree. If a RAW file exists I see no reason to really ever submit a jpeg as an original file. Too much of an unnecessary risk.

Dave