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04/06/2012 12:35:58 PM · #26 |
| Wow, from 6.21 to 6.00 in 3 votes O.o |
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04/06/2012 12:43:43 PM · #27 |
Votes: 37
Views: 83
Avg Vote: 5.7027
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
About what i thought . so I'm happy so far . hope it doesn't plummet in the next few days .LOL and my comment was very very good . |
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04/06/2012 01:56:06 PM · #28 |
there was something really fishy going on. my score since last night went, 3, 4, 5, 4, now it's 5.8
I wouldn't mind if it kept the same rate of increase upwards.
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04/06/2012 02:00:46 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Votes: 23
Views: 49
Avg Vote: 5.6957
Ugh, I'm really disappointed. I thought a 6+ for sure. Now I'm really confused. |
Votes: 37
Views: 74
Avg Vote: 5.9459
Woohoo. Keep going! |
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04/06/2012 02:42:03 PM · #30 |
cosmicassassin: . . . In this context, score is meaningless. Where you place is the only relevant factor, just like golf. . . .
I agree. I'm pretty new here and this is something that I have wondered since I joined. For me, the % is more important than the score. Why is the selection of the five "automatic" profile images based on score and not percentage? I really don't care much one way or another, but I find it puzzling. |
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04/06/2012 02:54:45 PM · #31 |
| If you look back at some of the challenges, you'll find the number of entries ranges from 7 to 1108. For those that entered the challenge with 7 entries, even last place could be awesome, but get a 0% placement by percentage. Conversely if you enter the challenge with 1108 entries and get a score of say 6.8, which could be a personal best, you'll find yourself somewhere in the 60% range due to the number of entries. |
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04/06/2012 03:37:37 PM · #32 |
| Thanks, James. That makes perfectly good sense. In my limited experience I have seen a range from about 75 to about 250, but nothing like what you are describing. Appreciate the insight. |
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04/06/2012 04:38:37 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
If you look back at some of the challenges, you'll find the number of entries ranges from 7 to 1108. For those that entered the challenge with 7 entries, even last place could be awesome, but get a 0% placement by percentage. Conversely if you enter the challenge with 1108 entries and get a score of say 6.8, which could be a personal best, you'll find yourself somewhere in the 60% range due to the number of entries. |
I still think % is a better gauge than score.
Only two people in 1543 challenges have managed to get above the average 5.5 score with a 0% placement. Even then they were not what I could call awesome scores.
Also getting a 6.8 with 60% is near impossible. It's hard to pull stats for the 60% mark, but no one has ever scored a 6.8 at the 50% mark. Not only that but only 13 of 1543 challenges pulled a 6.0+ at the 50% mark.
I guess it depends more on how people want to be judged. Pay attention to percentage if you want to see how you are doing in relation to your peers. But if you want to know how well an image is received, pay attention to score.
I personally like percentage better because score can differ a lot depending on how strict editing is and the subject matter of the challenge. I can pull off a high score much easier on an expert or advanced challenge than I can with a minimal or basic. The loose rules of expert and advanced let me make more stunning pictures, but the score doesn't tell me how well I did in relation to others. |
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04/06/2012 05:02:33 PM · #34 |
Votes: 40
Views: 73
Avg Vote: 6.1000
Comments: 2
Nice so far. |
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04/06/2012 05:11:11 PM · #35 |
It is interesting to see how your entries fall depending on the way you sort them.
For instance, this shot would be my #2 on my highest ranked, if ranked by %:
And this shot would be #5
And they both suck compared to my other entries... at least, in my mind. I guess those challenges just had lower average scores and were judged harsher overall.
At least they give us the ability to sort our entries however we please.
Message edited by author 2012-04-06 18:06:34. |
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04/06/2012 05:42:09 PM · #36 |
COME ON NOW... a 3? Really?
Are we letting the blind vote?
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04/06/2012 06:22:04 PM · #37 |
The challenge is Photoshop terms and in minimalist editing. If you are unsure if the title refers to a Photoshop term, than look it up before you DNMC the image. If you think the image has not been done under Minimilist editing than request a validation BUT vote as if it is legal. If it isn't legal than it will be DQéd and your vote won't make any difference. But if it is legal and you have voted it as if it isn't legal...than you will hammer an image that is not worthy of your low vote.
I see many images in there that utilise the not so well known Photoshop terms....and I suspect that many are getting DNMCéd due to the voters lack of knowledge. Think before you vote...as your vote can make all the difference.
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04/06/2012 06:50:13 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
COME ON NOW... a 3? Really?
Are we letting the blind vote? |
I've just handed out a few 3s on my first run through but i often bump things up a bit on a second. That said though, there are lots of different types of voters and i'm one of those that really doesn't care less about DNMC and it doesn't cross my mind. I vote on the image as it stands first and if its a clever and interesting take on the challenge second. If it's a, to me, boring and dull image that i have seem a zillion times before i tend to vote low even if is technically great and could easily be accepted by Alamy for stock for yet another dreary business pamphlet. I'm not saying any of the images in this challenge are like that but that may explain a 3 from me on some shots. Different strokes etc. |
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04/06/2012 07:03:32 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by rooum:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
COME ON NOW... a 3? Really?
Are we letting the blind vote? |
I've just handed out a few 3s on my first run through but i often bump things up a bit on a second. That said though, there are lots of different types of voters and i'm one of those that really doesn't care less about DNMC and it doesn't cross my mind. I vote on the image as it stands first and if its a clever and interesting take on the challenge second. If it's a, to me, boring and dull image that i have seem a zillion times before i tend to vote low even if is technically great and could easily be accepted by Alamy for stock for yet another dreary business pamphlet. I'm not saying any of the images in this challenge are like that but that may explain a 3 from me on some shots. Different strokes etc. |
Might or might not have been you, but my next vote... ALSO A FRIGGIN 3!!!!
The only scale this image is a 3 on is a 1-4 scale or MAYBE a 1-5 scale... Certainly not a 1-10 scale.
What an arse pain.
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04/06/2012 07:05:12 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Judi:
The challenge is Photoshop terms and in minimalist editing. If you are unsure if the title refers to a Photoshop term, than look it up before you DNMC the image. If you think the image has not been done under Minimilist editing than request a validation BUT vote as if it is legal. If it isn't legal than it will be DQéd and your vote won't make any difference. But if it is legal and you have voted it as if it isn't legal...than you will hammer an image that is not worthy of your low vote.
I see many images in there that utilise the not so well known Photoshop terms....and I suspect that many are getting DNMCéd due to the voters lack of knowledge. Think before you vote...as your vote can make all the difference. |
+1
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04/06/2012 07:08:27 PM · #41 |
Votes: 41
Views: 77
Avg Vote: 5.4878
Comments: 3
About usual for me. |
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04/06/2012 07:26:30 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Might or might not have been you, but my next vote... ALSO A FRIGGIN 3!!!!
The only scale this image is a 3 on is a 1-4 scale or MAYBE a 1-5 scale... Certainly not a 1-10 scale.
What an arse pain. |
Maybe some voters feel it's DNMC? Then you'd vote differently, yes?
Following quote from "Voting based on liking, not challenge".
Originally posted by klkitchens:
... The assumption for the 1-10 scale is that the photo is valid for the challenge. If it's not valid there is no way to express it except with a 1. Correctly anyway. |
I have no idea which photo is yours, nor have I voted this challenge....just saying. |
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04/06/2012 07:28:20 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Might or might not have been you, but my next vote... ALSO A FRIGGIN 3!!!!
The only scale this image is a 3 on is a 1-4 scale or MAYBE a 1-5 scale... Certainly not a 1-10 scale.
What an arse pain. |
Maybe some voters feel it's DNMC? Then you'd vote differently, yes?
Following quote from "Voting based on liking, not challenge".
Originally posted by klkitchens:
... The assumption for the 1-10 scale is that the photo is valid for the challenge. If it's not valid there is no way to express it except with a 1. Correctly anyway. |
I have no idea which photo is yours, nor have I voted this challenge....just saying. |
True... if they don't own photoshop or understand google, they might think it was DNMC. :)
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04/06/2012 10:01:16 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Originally posted by rooum:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
COME ON NOW... a 3? Really?
Are we letting the blind vote? |
I've just handed out a few 3s on my first run through but i often bump things up a bit on a second. That said though, there are lots of different types of voters and i'm one of those that really doesn't care less about DNMC and it doesn't cross my mind. I vote on the image as it stands first and if its a clever and interesting take on the challenge second. If it's a, to me, boring and dull image that i have seem a zillion times before i tend to vote low even if is technically great and could easily be accepted by Alamy for stock for yet another dreary business pamphlet. I'm not saying any of the images in this challenge are like that but that may explain a 3 from me on some shots. Different strokes etc. |
Might or might not have been you, but my next vote... ALSO A FRIGGIN 3!!!!
The only scale this image is a 3 on is a 1-4 scale or MAYBE a 1-5 scale... Certainly not a 1-10 scale.
What an arse pain. |
So what you're saying is your photo is objectively awesome across the board. There's no possible way that anyone could subjectively think otherwise.
I always thought the beauty of art was the fact that it's subjective. Guess I figured wrong.
CS |
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04/07/2012 03:51:52 AM · #45 |
Votes: 45
Views: 91
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 0
Crazy! It's a nice enough photo, but no way worth a 6! |
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04/07/2012 08:46:02 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Votes: 23
Views: 49
Avg Vote: 5.6957
Ugh, I'm really disappointed. I thought a 6+ for sure. Now I'm really confused. |
Votes: 37
Views: 74
Avg Vote: 5.9459
Woohoo. Keep going! |
Votes: 47
Views: 95
Avg Vote: 6.1702
Yay! Broke the 6.0 threshold. |
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04/07/2012 09:28:09 AM · #47 |
Votes: 46
Views: 106
Avg Vote: 5.7826
Comments: 0
Hope i break into the 6's, fingers crossed...
Done all my voting on the challenge also (100%). Some great ideas and photos and some that kinda missed the point and possibly thought they had to use the tool rather than represent it i feel.
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04/07/2012 10:00:58 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by stphq:
some that kinda missed the point and possibly thought they had to use the tool rather than represent it i feel. |
I thought the photos could represent either the tool or the result that tool creates, especially cause the challenge was photoshop terms not photoshop tools.
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04/07/2012 10:00:58 PM · #49 |
i accidentally double posted because I stink :(
Message edited by author 2012-04-08 12:15:12.
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04/08/2012 08:38:02 PM · #50 |
yes! i got a validation request. i was hoping i would get one. i dont even care about my score any more, i just wanted people to believe i didn't do it within the minimal rule set.
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