Just made my hardest DPC goal! - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

03/16/2012 12:45:48 AM · #1

I thought this was just a meh performance of a shot that I truly felt was much better than the low 5 it recieved. Then I looked at the voting breakdown...

I finally made my hardest DPC goal: the "love it or hate it" entry, receiving more 4's and 6's than 5's. I'm not surprised to see I made it with an abstract, but what IS surprising is that it was an abstract in an abstract challenge.

Thanks to everyone who did NOT give me a 5, even if you are one of the folks who thought it stunk!

tanguera

Nikon D750

03/16/2012 12:50:23 AM · #2

Congrats!

IAmEliKatz

Nikon D5

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

03/16/2012 12:52:25 AM · #3

Woooo hoooo! I love your shot. Should have placed higher.

MinsoPhoto

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

03/16/2012 06:05:24 AM · #4

Nice, a truly difficult goal.

deeby

Canon EOS-60D

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

03/16/2012 09:58:30 AM · #5

Message edited by author 2012-07-24 21:43:13.

RyanW

Nikon D7000

03/16/2012 11:10:12 AM · #6

Congrats on your goal.
I'd just like to chime in and say that i made my first two goals on the site for this challenge as well: "Don't Finish Dead Last" , and probably the hardest goal for me to achieve but i did achieve it "Don't get discouraged by how people vote/comment". Mine was the controller that was shot without a macro lens/macro filters.... i bought a set of filters after i saw some of the other shots in here.... even my re-take of my entry with macro filters made a huge difference.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/16/2012 11:16:25 AM · #7

I gave you a 6, so send me a cookie!

cowboy221977

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

03/16/2012 12:27:05 PM · #8

congrats on the goal Steve

03/16/2012 12:40:02 PM · #9

Originally posted by posthumous:

I gave you a 6, so send me a cookie!

There's a plate of chocolate chip with pecans out in the forum lobby. Better get one quick. And a few tracking cookies on your computer if you prefer the digital variety.

03/16/2012 01:28:20 PM · #10

This is pretty cool. You guys know I canâ��t resist playing with the numbers here. This is an example of a potentially bimodal distribution.

I took the actual votes you received and broke them into two theoretical groups of voters. About half of the votes are in each group but the grand total remains the same. I have no inside information so I as I said the groups are just split theoretically. Both groups have a reasonably normal distribution; one centered around 4 and the other on 6 and the standard deviations are similar.

The result indicates that there could have been two distinct camps of voters (more than one mode) on this shot. I wouldnâ��t say it was Love/Hate but it definitely seemed to be Like/Dislike :-)

If it really is two different distributions blended together it would be facinating to figure out why.

Message edited by author 2012-03-16 13:36:35.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/16/2012 02:33:18 PM · #11

so am I the 6 that disliked him or the 6 that liked him?

03/16/2012 04:33:54 PM · #12

Originally posted by posthumous:

so am I the 6 that disliked him or the 6 that liked him?

I'm not sure, you're either a high scoring "dis-liker" or low scoring "liker"

I knew someone was going to catch-on to that. That's why it would be interesting to know if there was some other factor other than like or dislike happening here. Then again maybe there was just a bunch of voters avoiding 5 during this challenge and this bimodal stuff is just an aberration :-)

03/16/2012 04:58:42 PM · #13

Originally posted by DJWoodward:

The result indicates that there could have been two distinct camps of voters (more than one mode) on this shot.

Not sure I'm following what you are suggesting with this, since your division was theoretical to begin with. What do you mean by "camps of voters" and "mode"?

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/16/2012 05:03:53 PM · #14

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by DJWoodward:
The result indicates that there could have been two distinct camps of voters (more than one mode) on this shot.

Not sure I'm following what you are suggesting with this, since your division was theoretical to begin with. What do you mean by "camps of voters" and "mode"?

well, if you assume that a Gaussian curve is natural, even human nature, and you see a bimodal distribution, then you are led by your assumption to assume two factions... like men and women, for example, who approach your image differently.

but of course, it's all dependent on that assumption.

deeby

Canon EOS-60D

03/16/2012 05:13:32 PM · #15

Message edited by author 2012-07-24 21:43:29.

03/16/2012 06:06:47 PM · #16

Originally posted by deeby:

filter out the participant voters and see what profile you get...see if it's still bimodal. Do the same with non-participants. Maybe that would tell us something about whether the two populations are behaving similarly, and whether good/bad is the only factor.

Ahh, but we have no way tell which votes came from who. :-)

It would be fun to have some of that individual vote data to play with

03/16/2012 06:23:45 PM · #17

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Don summed it up well.

Even here at DPC we don't see may distributions that aren't bell-shaped (normal, Gaussian, etc.). Most of the time thereâ��s a single peak in our scores. Just glancing at your original score distribution you can get a sense that there may be two distributions overlapping. I say this because of the two peaks with a tremendous amount of symmetry on the ends. We don't see that very often.

I cut the data into two somewhat normal groups to show the â��two campâ�� theory might be possible but it's not proof that it did happen. As Don said it could be men vs. women or it could be old vs. young or maybe colorblind and not colorblind :-)

But we'd need a lot more information about the voters to substantiate anything like that.

Message edited by author 2012-03-16 18:24:11.

03/16/2012 06:46:29 PM · #18

Originally posted by DJWoodward:

. As Don said it could be men vs. women or it could be old vs. young or maybe colorblind and not colorblind :-)

I think I'm going with the "love abstracts" group and the "really wanted to see water drops and curled paper" group.