Don't Kick the Bucket over your score...

Fujifilm XF 10-24mm f/4 R IOS

02/29/2012 12:57:09 PM · #26

Slowly dropping... still No comments.
It's cool tho. Think I jinxed myself. Lol

markwiley

Fujifilm X-Pro2

02/29/2012 02:10:22 PM · #27

Euphemism news flash: Davy Jones just went to Davey Jones' Locker

(sorry)

KfirLevAri

Nikon D90

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR

02/29/2012 04:39:32 PM · #28

Well.. no matter how many features I'll add to the graph, still my score will suck :)

(btw - the extension will work also for non-members)

Message edited by author 2012-02-29 16:43:08.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/29/2012 04:40:33 PM · #29

Originally posted by markwiley:

Euphemism news flash: Davy Jones just went to Davey Jones' Locker

(sorry)

My very first crush.

02/29/2012 06:30:08 PM · #30

After reviewing my picture again, I see more and more areas for improvement. Interestingly enough, no one else seems to feel the need/have the courage to say so.

One MAJOR mistake I see is killing me everytime I look at it now. Lol. Oh well, live and learn. :)

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

02/29/2012 06:45:04 PM · #31

One more challenge people are getting way too detail about and not giving benefit of the doubt. It's like "Challenge's way, or highway"... I understand DNMC and all that but if the subject is difficult to understand for some (me apparently), but photo is decent, why kill it (YES, I am talking about mine, admittingly this time)

It's not like BW Portrait ;) no confusion there (keep your sarcasm by the way).

Thank GOD it's only once a week stress this time, open challenges only, otherwise I probably would kill something by now... maybe my laptop.

Sometime I just can't help ranting, it's just too much... it has to get out.

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I really don't think it's a 5.6 photo (at least 6.5), I just don't know where did I make the huge mistake... I may have an idea but if I know that's the reason, it'll piss me off much more.

MargaretNet

Sony DSC-RX100 VII

02/29/2012 06:55:54 PM · #32

I am sick and tired of low voting on this and other challenges. I am not entering any more for a while. There is a group of organized trolls deliberately voting low. The scores have nothing to do with the quality of the entries.

02/29/2012 06:58:11 PM · #33

I, for one, am not going to give any TROLL the satisfaction of letting them think they can run me off. :)

There are so many beautifully composed photos in the challenge... don't let them get to you.

nickyb

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Sony 50mm f/1.8 e mount

02/29/2012 07:11:52 PM · #34

haha goin up and down by .1 LOL

02/29/2012 07:14:45 PM · #35

Originally posted by MargaretN:

It's not hard people, low scores and trolls are not mutually inclusive. Repeat after me, low scores and trolls are not mutually inclusive. Now that we're past that, why care about your score is if you don't know anyone else's? Shouldn't your score relative to the other photos be the only one that matters? Isn't that what we're measuring at the end of the day?

I give out low scores, hell, my average is 4.4 over the three challenges I've voted on. Does that mean I'm trolling? Not in the least, just that our scales our different.

CS

Message edited by author 2012-02-29 19:24:21.

MargaretNet

Sony DSC-RX100 VII

02/29/2012 07:25:28 PM · #36

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by MargaretN:
I am sick and tired of low voting on this and other challenges. I am not entering any more for a while. There is a group of organized trolls deliberately voting low. The scores have nothing to do with the quality of the entries.

It's not hard people, low scores and trolls are not mutually inclusive. Repeat after me, low scores and trolls are not mutually inclusive. Now that we're past that, why care about your score is if you don't know anyone else's? Shouldn't the your score relative to the other photos be the only one that matters? Isn't that what we're measuring at the end of the day?

I give out low scores, hell, my average is 4.4 over the three challenges I've voted on. Does that mean I'm trolling? Not in the least, just that our scales our different.

CS

I wasn't targeting you specifically but I think that the photos of certain quality should be assessed independent of other photos i.e. on a absolute, not relative scale. So I think you have got it wrong. It is a pity because it does put people off entering. And if very few people enter and vote and comment what would be the point of DPC??

02/29/2012 07:31:04 PM · #37

I do agree that the photos should be voted on based on quality... but personal preference will come into play... sometimes obscuring quality.

I will continue to enter, comment, and vote. :)

02/29/2012 07:34:00 PM · #38

Originally posted by nickyb:

haha goin up and down by .1 LOL

Mine is doing the same. Interesting. Lol

02/29/2012 07:36:47 PM · #39

I would only agree with you if everyone could agree to like/dislike the same elements within a photograph. We cannot, therefore postulating we use an absolute scale is erroneous.

CS

02/29/2012 07:38:40 PM · #40

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

I would only agree with you if everyone could agree to like/dislike the same elements within a photograph. We cannot, therefore postulating we use an absolute scale is erroneous.

CS

Goes back to the "art is subjective" argument. Lol

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

02/29/2012 07:45:05 PM · #41

Originally posted by dyridings:

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:
I would only agree with you if everyone could agree to like/dislike the same elements within a photograph. We cannot, therefore postulating we use an absolute scale is erroneous.

CS

Goes back to the "art is subjective" argument. Lol

Exactly, which is why people complaining about scores and whatnot is completely pointless. As long as the voters are consistent, nothing else should matter. Worrying about your score, when you don't know anyone else's simply validates this point. These are challenges where there is a winner based on achieving the highest score relative to the other challengers. There is no ribbon given out for getting a certain score regardless of what others achieved.

Maybe I'm simply being too logical in my assessment here, but if someone can explain why score matters outside of the challenge context and what others attained, I'm willing to listen.

CS

MargaretNet

Sony DSC-RX100 VII

02/29/2012 07:48:14 PM · #42

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

I would only agree with you if everyone could agree to like/dislike the same elements within a photograph. We cannot, therefore postulating we use an absolute scale is erroneous.

CS

By absolute scale I mean within your subjective thinking about photography in general, rather than your subjective relative scale within one challenge.

And my main point is that your way of thinking = less DPC members. You have cast 262 votes and made only 10 comments - how useful is that to those who want to learn? If you give low votes WHY don't you say why you scored the image low? This is what everybody wants to know.

sinistral_leo

Nikon D5100

02/29/2012 07:54:50 PM · #43

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Maybe I'm simply being too logical in my assessment here, but if someone can explain why score matters outside of the challenge context and what others attained, I'm willing to listen.

CS

I don't take scores too seriously, (just look at some of my entries ;-) but I do feel that if I break 7 then I really did well. If I get over a 6, I am content that I did pretty good. If I get near a 5...Meh.

But the scores are pretty pointless. Look at my 7.22 shot, it isn't even in focus, but it strummed the heart strings of the voters.
Then I have shots in the 4's and 5's that the voters just didn't "get" even though there was a lot that went into the shot.

Message edited by author 2012-02-29 19:55:17.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

02/29/2012 08:06:42 PM · #44

Originally posted by MargaretN:

... If you give low votes WHY don't you say why you scored the image low? This is what everybody wants to know.

For every one person that "wants to know" and takes a comment constructively, there will be many others' that will not take it so lightly or in the manner intended. It's not worth the fuss 9 times out of 10 to say what you really think.

I wish they'd implement the suggestion for people to flag their challenge entry with an indicator such as 1) "Tell me what you really think, I can take it" 2) "I only want nice comments" or 3) "Don't bother". That's not exactly how I saw it worded when suggested before, but it's along the same line of thought.

02/29/2012 08:12:37 PM · #45

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by MargaretN:
... If you give low votes WHY don't you say why you scored the image low? This is what everybody wants to know.

For every one person that "wants to know" and takes a comment constructively, there will be many others' that will not take it so lightly or in the manner intended. It's not worth the fuss 9 times out of 10 to say what you really think.

I wish they'd implement the suggestion for people to flag their challenge entry with an indicator such as 1) "Tell me what you really think, I can take it" 2) "I only want nice comments" or 3) "Don't bother". That's not exactly how I saw it worded when suggested before, but it's along the same line of thought.

I was about to type the exact same thing. Thank you.

CS