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08/02/2004 02:02:33 AM · #1
I am thinking of buying a Canon EOS Rebel. I've been looking at several online companies like EBay and the Rebel comes with a 18-55 zoom lens and your choice of wide-angle or telephoto (Ebay Link). I don't know much about lenses but I know I need MUCH better macro, zoom, and shutter speeds than my S5000 allows me.

I have Three questions:

1. Can I get Close Up Macro results like this with the included lens or would I need a better one, and if so, which 'cheaper' ones can you recommend? I know nothing about lenses but I would like to get a few of the necessary ones while I'm at it :)

2. If you got the package deal on ebay, which would you choose, wide-angle or telephoto? I rarely use my wide-angle lens I have now, I use my telephoto more for added zoom on macro shots (because my zoom sucks already).

3. Where would be the best place to sell my Fuji S5000 and accessories? I've only had it 6 months and its still under warranty. I paid around $600 and its in such good condition I want to get as much as I can from it (comes with cam, lenses, filters, case, tripod, mem card, etc..).

Thanks for any help you can give :o)
08/02/2004 02:06:12 AM · #2
1) probably not. Try the 105mm macro lens with a reversed 50mm 1.8 (seems to be the rage).

2)up to you

3)Ebay or KEH //www.keh.com/hmpg/index.cfm

Message edited by author 2004-08-02 02:08:31.
08/02/2004 03:40:52 AM · #3
Originally posted by aerogurl:


1. Can I get Close Up Macro results like this with the included lens or would I need a better one, and if so, which 'cheaper' ones can you recommend? I know nothing about lenses but I would like to get a few of the necessary ones while I'm at it :)


Hoya (and many other companies) have these Magnification Filters that screw on the front of your lens. I've bought some ages back, and they're really effective. I spent AUD$90 on those, which is about USD$40 (???)
08/02/2004 03:48:36 AM · #4
Another reasonably cheap alternative is to buy extension tubes. They run to about $70 US.

Basically they're just a small tube that goes between your camera and lens which allows you to focus much closer. The 18-55 isn't the ideal lens to put in front of it, but you could certainly get some good macros for relatively little money.
08/02/2004 04:35:28 AM · #5
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Another reasonably cheap alternative is to buy extension tubes. They run to about $70 US.

Basically they're just a small tube that goes between your camera and lens which allows you to focus much closer. The 18-55 isn't the ideal lens to put in front of it, but you could certainly get some good macros for relatively little money.


I have a Nikon D70, which I got with the 18-70mm zoom lens, a good lens, but to do some macro stuff I bought a 50mm/1.8 lens (about $100) and some extension tubes ($200? dang, but these are autofocus tubes, maybe that's why they cost more. Manual focus works better most of the time for macro anyway.). It works fabulously. I can basically fill my frame with a grasshopper's head. A real macro lens would reduce the swapping of tubes when you want to change distances from the subject, but cost a LOT more and won't get you quite as close either unless you use extension tubes with them too.
08/02/2004 11:07:26 PM · #6
*bump*

thanks for the info so far, looking to hear from more EOS users... :)
08/02/2004 11:19:23 PM · #7
Dana, first of all I would be very leary about buying a DSLR off eBay. I'd stick with a reputable dealer where you could get easy replacements and refunds if necessary.

The 18-55 kit lens is not as bad as everyone seems to say it is. Stopped down to f/8 it's not bad for the price (free!). For Macro shots I'd get the Canon 100mm f/2.8 or the equivalent Sigma which is a little bit cheaper, add a set of Kenko extension tubes and a reversed 50mm f/1.8 lens and you are up in Macro Jacko territory. Since you mentioned more zoom range, a good starter lens is the Canon 28-135 IS lens. What budget do have to play with? As you probably noticed the sky's the limit when it comes to accessories and lenses...
08/03/2004 02:40:57 AM · #8
Answers and opinions:

1. Nope, not with the kit lens. Get a macro lens, either the Sigma 105 or the Canon 100. The Canon costs more, but the AF is faster. Keep in mind AF speed is not really important for macro. If you want to see what the Sigma lens is capable of, look at Jacko's stuff. If the macro lens won't get you close enough, you can add diopters to the macro lens (~$30), buy extension tubes, or buy a cheap MF f 1.8 50mm lens off ebay (mine cost $7 including shipping) and a macro coupler so you can reverse it on the front of your macro lens. At this point, your working distance is about 1/2".

2. Honestly, I would buy from someone else like B&H, but it's up to you. I doubt those converters will give very good results in either case. Of course, you could always sell them on Ebay.

3. Ebay. Just set a reasonable reserve price. Keep in mind that digital cameras drop significantly in value very rapidly, so you should not expect to recoup more than 70-80% regardless of condition.


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