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01/21/2012 05:43:49 PM · #1 |
Have a read and see what spin the apple fan boys can put on this :wow:
"Apple, in this EULA, is claiming a right not just to its software, but to its software’s output"
"The nightmare scenario under this agreement? You create a great work of staggering literary genius that you think you can sell for 5 or 10 bucks per copy. You craft it carefully in iBooks Author. You submit it to Apple. They reject it. Under this license agreement, you are out of luck. They won’t sell it, and you can’t legally sell it elsewhere." |
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01/21/2012 07:13:15 PM · #2 |
| so don't use their software... |
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01/21/2012 08:58:41 PM · #3 |
Guess I'm not a really good fan boy, but I'll give it a shot...
Apple provides a fairly complicated piece of software, absolutely free, and then puts conditions on it, if you want to make money with the output, free distributions do not have to go through Apple, and you feel that is unfair.
Demanding free software to use for commercial purposes seems a bit greedy...
How'd I do? ;-)
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01/21/2012 09:52:42 PM · #4 |
The files created with iBooks Author can only be read with iBooks (it's a proprietary format), so the iBookstore is the only practical means of distribution. The difference between telling users they can only sell iBook files through Apple and not telling them when there's no other place to sell is precisely nothing.
Message edited by author 2012-01-21 21:54:15. |
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01/22/2012 07:02:14 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
so don't use their software... |
+1
in a nutshell |
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01/22/2012 10:22:41 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Tiny:
Originally posted by mike_311:
so don't use their software... |
+1
in a nutshell |
then y bother owning their product.
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01/22/2012 11:01:41 AM · #7 |
| You have lost me, don,t if you don,t want to.Do if you do. |
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01/22/2012 11:23:03 AM · #8 |
Missing the point guys.... It's going from customer unfriendly to customer hostile.... I'm more bothered by the reaching - I'm never going to use that software anyway, so have no skin in the specific scenario (but I am bothered by the direction). Apple has been using suits more and more recently.
What if Adobe said we own the output of InDesign, Photoshop, LightRoom.....? What if WordPress said they owned all blogs running on that software? Shrug and say don't use it?? |
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01/22/2012 11:27:55 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
Guess I'm not a really good fan boy, but I'll give it a shot...
Apple provides a fairly complicated piece of software, absolutely free, and then puts conditions on it, if you want to make money with the output, free distributions do not have to go through Apple, and you feel that is unfair.
Demanding free software to use for commercial purposes seems a bit greedy...
How'd I do? ;-) |
- Google have lots of "free" (free in monetary terms anyway) complex software.
- There is any number of "free" opensource things - Open Office all but replaced M$ Office.
There has long been a way to deal with commercial use - That is to licence the software so that the free version is only licenced for personal use and you need to pay some $$ for commercial use. This is using a monopoly of 1 distribution point as the licence is against the output not the input. |
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01/22/2012 11:28:51 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by robs:
What if Adobe said we own the output of InDesign, Photoshop, LightRoom.....? What if WordPress said they owned all blogs running on that software? Shrug and say don't use it?? |
exactly, no one is forcing you to use their software or to publish the book in their istore. they can write whatever they want into the EULA.
its not like this is the only option. if apple wants to try an capitalize on it, so be it.
it not too far off off a signing a book deal with a publisher. apple just became the publisher. if you dont like their rules, go with someone else.
Message edited by author 2012-01-22 11:37:40. |
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01/22/2012 11:30:40 AM · #11 |
| Gee, such vitriolic jealousy being expressed on this site recently. |
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01/22/2012 11:47:42 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by robs:
What if Adobe said we own the output of InDesign, Photoshop, LightRoom.....? |
What if InDesign's output could only be viewed with InDesign and Adobe said all for-profit sales must go through a hugely popular InDesignStore (the only option available)? It's the same thing. |
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01/22/2012 05:35:05 PM · #13 |
IBooks are only viewable on Apple products. So, I wouldn't bother with it in the first place. IPads will view Kindle, Nook, ePub. And good ol PDF, amongst others. I think of it more like the time when IBM came out with PS2. A resounding thud of a failure to lock down the market. Kindle and Nook control much more of the ebook market than does Apple. I hav an iPad 1 and a 2. I have never purchased a book from Apple. I have books purchased from B&N and Amazon.
Personally, I wouldn't use IBook. But then I am not really a fan boy or a professnal writer either. I pretend to be a photographer, and that is about as far as it goes...
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01/22/2012 06:04:30 PM · #14 |
| what apple is trying to do is get their foot in the door to use ipads in schools where the textbook market is king. |
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01/22/2012 08:59:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
IBooks are only viewable on Apple products. So, I wouldn't bother with it in the first place. IPads will view Kindle, Nook, ePub. And good ol PDF, amongst others. I think of it more like the time when IBM came out with PS2. |
...or when Apple came out with the iPod. |
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01/23/2012 12:16:26 AM · #16 |
| Apple is only doing what Apple does...demand complete control. That is their corporate mindset and this is only an extension of that. Clearly it is a new iteration and has drawn the ire of usual Apple fan blogs. Apple...Goolge...Microsoft...Adobe. They will all sell their grandmother to gain an advantage. |
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