Wow - Costa Concordia photo - DPChallenge Forums

01/17/2012 03:52:12 PM · #1

Check this out! Unreal...

That's one hell of a rock to be literally lodged into the ship's hull...

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01/17/2012 04:01:46 PM · #2

Even better - those look like lichens on that rock, which would tell me that it was ABOVE WATER!!!

If that is true, then this was not a hidden rock below the waterline, the idiot may have actually struck a freaking island of rock.

ETA: here are the rest of the photos.
//cryptome.org/2012-info/costa-concordia/0041.htm

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Art Roflmao

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01/17/2012 04:14:22 PM · #3

If only they had a GIANT pair of tweezers...

Art Roflmao

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01/17/2012 04:20:07 PM · #4

Hey look, it's the SS Escher...

tanguera

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01/17/2012 04:22:23 PM · #5

They need Godzilla to pull that thing out...

Giles

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01/17/2012 04:22:39 PM · #6

wowsers, that made a hole didnt it

metal gets felxible with that much force behind it hehe

Art Roflmao

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01/17/2012 04:28:11 PM · #7

On a positive note, the waterslide just got a whole lot more exciting...

o2bskating

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01/17/2012 04:30:05 PM · #8

now that is an EPIC FAILURE !

o damn wonder if they are gonna take that outta the captain's check...

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Bear_Music

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01/17/2012 05:10:01 PM · #9

Just for the record, folks:

The rock we're looking at here is where the ship FOUNDERED as they were trying to turn her and get her into the island's port or beach her. When they realized (belatedly) that she was going down for sure, she was headed south and was some distance offshore. She ended up foundered on the rocks as she headed back in a northerly direction. Had they NOT turned the ship and headed inshore, this would have been a LOT worse.

Anyway, the rock she hit that started all this was underwater and a few hundred yards offshore, apparently. The ship was a long ways from where she was supposed to be, but all the pictures make it look like the idiots were trying to blissfully drive the boat along 100 feet off a rocky headland, and that's NOT the case.

R.

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01/17/2012 05:20:14 PM · #10

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

How sure are you about the provenance of this rock Bear? Because to my eye, that rock looks to be lodged in the ship's hull, not something the ship has foundered upon.

-CB

ETA: Especially in this photo, it would appear to be just the right size, and right location to be a part of the original hazard that he struck..

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RayEthier

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01/17/2012 05:31:22 PM · #11

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

The various sources of information I have read to date suggest that what

Bear_Music is suggesting here is in keeping with the information available to date.

Ray

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01/17/2012 05:32:10 PM · #12

Originally posted by Cory:

How sure are you about the provenance of this rock Bear? Because to my eye, that rock looks to be lodged in the ship, not something the ship has foundered upon.

-CB

Even if so, it's not inconsistent; it could have been embedded in the ship during the foundering. It is, in any case, a FACT that where all the trouble started was considerably further offshore, and where the ship eventually came to her demise was several miles south of that, on a headland she was attempting to get past on her way to the beach and the port, after turning back north. Or at least according to the reports I'm seeing of what "actually happened". There is NOBODY saying the Captain was showing off trying to impress people by skirting that headland and ripped the ship apart doing so. There's a time span of something like 45 minutes or an hour between when she first hit something and when she finally foundered and capsized.

And here's something else to consider: whilst I agree with you that the rock's showing all the signs of being an exposed rock, it's embedded BELOW THE WATERLINE in that picture. There's no way that would have happened if the boat were just driving along in normal fashion and hit an exposed rock...

R.

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01/17/2012 05:35:03 PM · #13

Originally posted by Cory:

ETA: Especially in this photo, it would appear to be just the right size, and right location to be a part of the original hazard that he struck..

And in THAT photo, it looks like it's a protruding pinnacle of rock and the ship raked right along it and came staggering to a halt. It looks as if the ship was listing when she encountered the pinnacle, which is consistent with what I'm reading. That's not some freaking "boulder", that's the above-water tip of a rock outcropping.

R.

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01/17/2012 05:40:14 PM · #14

Robert explained perfectly what happened. The rock in the photo is not the one hit by Costa Concordia.

I don't know if you heard the phone call of the captain after he left the ship. Well, I'm Italian and I can get the expressions and so on, he was like a child who had stolen a chocolate bar... I hardly could believe it!

tnun

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01/17/2012 05:47:32 PM · #15

Originally posted by Alexkc:

the phone call that told him to get back onto the ship an go looking for people and he didn't want to.

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01/17/2012 05:55:46 PM · #16

I have a question. There was an exchange between the captain and the Italian CG, in which the captain said,

Captain: "Do you realise that it is dark and we can't see anything?"

Does a cruise ship with 4200 souls aboard rely on visual clues to navigate the Mediterranean... in the daylight, much moreso in the dark? After all, those waters have been charted and navigated for several millennia. Would an ocean going vessel rely on sophisticated GPS and precise computerized navigation. Something about this event seems to be amiss.

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01/17/2012 06:07:47 PM · #17

Originally posted by hahn23:

I think he meant in the ship...

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01/17/2012 06:09:26 PM · #18

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Cory:
How sure are you about the provenance of this rock Bear? Because to my eye, that rock looks to be lodged in the ship, not something the ship has foundered upon.

-CB

Even if so, it's not inconsistent; it could have been embedded in the ship during the foundering. It is, in any case, a FACT that where all the trouble started was considerably further offshore, and where the ship eventually came to her demise was several miles south of that, on a headland she was attempting to get past on her way to the beach and the port, after turning back north. Or at least according to the reports I'm seeing of what "actually happened". There is NOBODY saying the Captain was showing off trying to impress people by skirting that headland and ripped the ship apart doing so. There's a time span of something like 45 minutes or an hour between when she first hit something and when she finally foundered and capsized.

And here's something else to consider: whilst I agree with you that the rock's showing all the signs of being an exposed rock, it's embedded BELOW THE WATERLINE in that picture. There's no way that would have happened if the boat were just driving along in normal fashion and hit an exposed rock...

R.

No possibility that the ship may have either dislodged the rock from above waterline, or rode up on the rock enough to lodge it in there like that?

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01/17/2012 06:15:05 PM · #19

Originally posted by tnun:

Originally posted by Alexkc:
Robert explained perfectly what happened. The rock in the photo is not the one hit by Costa Concordia.

I don't know if you heard the phone call of the captain after he left the ship. Well, I'm Italian and I can get the expressions and so on, he was like a child who had stolen a chocolate bar... I hardly could believe it!

the phone call that told him to get back onto the ship an go looking for people and he didn't want to.

Yes.

Alex_Petrini

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01/17/2012 06:18:50 PM · #20

Originally posted by hahn23:

I don't know how they translated it but the CG was telling him to go back to the ship and he answered that it was dark. The CG's words were really strong against the captain.

ETA: Cory it's sure beyond any reasonable doubt that the ship didn't hit that rock - no doubts!

cowboy221977

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01/17/2012 08:00:14 PM · #21

There is no excuse for the captain to be a coward.....It can be scary in a dangerous situation....but those people were scared too. My thoughts and prayers are with the surviors, the missing, the dead, and all of the families...I also pray that they find someone alive.

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01/17/2012 08:12:58 PM · #22

Maybe the rock is sticking all the way through the hull from the other side, and that's what is keeping it from slipping over the precipice.
What matters is that people died, people were injured, a magnificent ship is wrecked. The rock is there now, and from here on out, it's just going to be a salvage and clean up operation.
There is a pretty good chance that the steering was toast by the time they arrived at the island and beached the ship. Those ships use motor pods sticking out from the bottom of the hull, and most likely if they ran aground, one or more of them was severely damaged, plus the power went off to the lighting and maybe the power for the steering was lost or partly lost too.

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01/17/2012 08:40:51 PM · #23

I have been listening to the story since I heard about it on Saturday. I find the captain's behavior before, during, and after the disaster absolutely appalling. Everything I have heard shows he had not the head for leadership and should not have been in the position he held. Thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those who lost loved ones.

I do have one BIG question - after the captain there is a chain of command yes?

Why didn't the second or Executive Officer take charge? Where were they during this disaster?

Fear, panic, and misinformation ran like wildfire through the ship during the crisis- I think that there would have been even less loss of life if the second or third took charge of the evacuation.

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01/17/2012 10:41:44 PM · #24

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

On a positive note, the waterslide just got a whole lot more exciting...

................surely there's an easier way to empty the pool???