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12/10/2011 05:12:50 PM · #1
So, I learned about dodge and burn the other day. Three years I've been doing this, and I'm just now learning how those two features of PS work. Amazing.

Here's an old shot from my trip (aka honeymoon) to Alaska that was good originally, but was (I think) vastly improved by a little dodge/burn.

Critique very welcome.

12/12/2011 11:22:00 AM · #2
Here's me begging for more input on this :)
12/12/2011 11:38:10 AM · #3
I also would like to learn more about dodge and burn
12/12/2011 11:44:41 AM · #4
Can you post the original?
12/12/2011 11:58:58 AM · #5
Originally posted by PGerst:

Can you post the original?


I will when I get home.
12/12/2011 12:01:26 PM · #6
Thanks ,really need to compare what you had before.
12/12/2011 04:14:56 PM · #7
Originally posted by Tiny:

Thanks ,really need to compare what you had before.


Okay, sure.

I was just looking for comments on the shot in general, not necessarily the editing (but I'm interested in that also.) However, I can see in how I made the OP that it wasn't clear what I was looking for critique on. Thanks.
12/13/2011 10:51:28 AM · #8
Alright here's the original...crop is slightly different, but it's the same shot.

12/13/2011 11:04:44 AM · #9
Well you have certainly improved the shot. There is a lot of empty space but its a fair shot.If this where in a free study challenge I would be giving it a 5 ish.
Perhaps others will be along soon with more words than I to comment on your image.
12/13/2011 11:15:59 AM · #10
I left my comment on your pic.
12/13/2011 11:58:15 AM · #11
How's this?



ETA: I just noticed the full-size version you gave us is a different exposure/frame from the first one :-)

Message edited by author 2011-12-13 11:59:23.
12/13/2011 02:22:54 PM · #12
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

How's this?



ETA: I just noticed the full-size version you gave us is a different exposure/frame from the first one :-)


I really like this...I think it gives a more realistic impression of the feeling on that train than my processing. I'll take these notes and put them to good use, thank you very much!

Also, I could've sworn it was the same image, but I guess I messed up. I was just trying to pop something up here quickly without reworking it much and basically see what folks thought. However, now that I try to find the original image, I have no idea what I've done with, and that is surprising as I keep a pretty organized digital portfolio. :/

Message edited by author 2011-12-13 14:24:21.
12/13/2011 03:03:49 PM · #13
FWIW, I prefer the composition of this second iteration to that of the first one. In the first one, the near window is too dominant; I think this is a better balanced shot by quite a bit.
12/13/2011 03:32:54 PM · #14
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

FWIW, I prefer the composition of this second iteration to that of the first one. In the first one, the near window is too dominant; I think this is a better balanced shot by quite a bit.


Thanks. I'm trying out some work in Viveza similar to what you've done, but I don't know a great deal about processing...mostly just piecemeal stuff over time. I came up with this using Viveza alone, and wasn't sure about how you did the "sky gradient" you mentioned. Forgive my idiocy on PS matters...



Message edited by author 2011-12-13 15:40:38.
12/13/2011 04:33:07 PM · #15
I like taking the train, but I'm not sure I'd be all that comfortable going over that trestle!

Nice teamwork guys -- looking good to me!
12/13/2011 05:18:47 PM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I like taking the train, but I'm not sure I'd be all that comfortable going over that trestle!

Nice teamwork guys -- looking good to me!


Thankfully we did not do that! It was a pretty safe (and honestly nice and cushy inside the traincar with sandwiches and tea) ordeal.
12/13/2011 10:52:04 PM · #17
1. Cntrl-shift-N to make a new layer.
2. In the dialogue box name it "gradient", select "multiply" from the layer mode drop-down arrow, and tick the mark for "Fill with multiply-neutral gradient (white)"
3. Make your toolbox color picker tool the default, with black in foreground.
4. Select the gradient tool in the toolbox.
5. In the toolbar at the top, hit the dropdown arrow and choose the "foreground to transparent" gradient.
6. Be sure the "gradient" layer is the active layer and draw straight down witht he gradient tool from the top edge of the picture to about where the trestle is.
7. Now in the layers palette, fade the opacity of the "gradient" layer until you have the amount of darkening youw ant.

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That's the basic model. You can draw the gradient with a blue color and get some blue in the gradient, if you want. Or any color at all for that matter :-)

R.
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