How about an Advanced with a lil Expert thrown in?

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12/01/2011 08:00:11 AM · #1

SO I was having a think, and had a thought! (I know shocker huh!)

How about an Advanced Challenge, with a little expert editing thrown in for good measure.

Meaning.

You can do expert rules, but only use 5 photos of the same scene ( so say, a landscape in one shot, then with birds flying though the same landscape in the next shot, a bear eating a duck in the next shot, a parachute falling from the sky, so same 5 shots, just has different things happening to make up a complete scene, unlike Advanced editing )) . Not 30 odd plus as we see in most Expert Challenge.

Does that make sense, or does that not make sense as I have not had coffee yet??

Alex_Petrini

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12/01/2011 08:03:16 AM · #2

What I don't understand is why it would be more interesting having 5 images instead of 10 or 15 :)

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12/01/2011 08:22:43 AM · #3

Because it is a challenge.

If you look at the Expert CHallenges top ten's, most of them are using up to 30-40 photographs to complete the scene. So can you make something that is as appealing with a constraint.

cloudsme

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12/01/2011 08:28:42 AM · #4

30-40 photographs? I had no idea that was happening. How could they possibly validate those entries?

Alex_Petrini

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12/01/2011 08:30:23 AM · #5

Originally posted by JulietNN:

If you look at the Expert CHallenges top ten's, most of them are using up to 30-40 photographs to complete the scene.

You mean something like this?

:D

Well it could be a good idea... I don't know if it will change a lot what will be created, but we could try :)

Alex_Petrini

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Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

12/01/2011 08:31:39 AM · #6

Originally posted by cloudsme:

30-40 photographs? I had no idea that was happening. How could they possibly validate those entries?

Sendind all the images... it took me at least 3-4 hours for the Day and Night challenge O.o

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12/01/2011 08:35:08 AM · #7

I have absolutely no idea how the PS wizards seamlesslessly blend together 30-40 images in Expert, but admire them greatly for it. But whether it's only 10-15 captures or a few dozen, I'd still be wasting my time! It's all I can do to make just one capture look good!

gyaban

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12/01/2011 08:48:20 AM · #8

Originally posted by snaffles:

In fact, I would say that blending nicely 2 or 3 photos together isn't very different from blending 200+ together: if you can do the former you can do the latter. It is only a matter of time.

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12/01/2011 09:09:06 AM · #9

exactly

gyaban

some people are overwhelmed when it comes to even thinking of a scene that could contain 30 odd photos in expert challenges, so why not start off really small with only a few images and going from there. This way people are not overwhelmed, there are not 5 million photos to process or take little bits out of to complete a photo.

And that is not true snaffs, you can do it, it is easier than you think once you have the basics of it.

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12/01/2011 09:23:37 AM · #10

Originally posted by JulietNN:

exactly gyaban

some people are overwhelmed when it comes to even thinking of a scene that could contain 30 odd photos in expert challenges, so why not start off really small with only a few images and going from there. This way people are not overwhelmed, there are not 5 million photos to process or take little bits out of to complete a photo.

And that is not true snaffs, you can do it, it is easier than you think once you have the basics of it.

Hmm thanks for the encouragement, Juliet and Christophe, but I wouldn't even know what to do once I've done the editing on each individual image. And it's so easy to do something wrong, then have to backtrack and undo, then redo it, even with multiple saves. I just find it so frustrating :-/

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12/01/2011 09:25:06 AM · #11

I can always help you if you want, I am no expert, but I can blend stuff now using more than 2 photos.

Melethia

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12/01/2011 09:27:28 AM · #12

I'm with Susan on this. Yesterday I tried cloning something and it took me forever. I can't "draw" straight with a mouse - I shake too much. I can't even begin to consider blending/shading/erasing/revealing. Most importantly, though, is not that I can't do the techniques, but I can't SEE how to use them. I don't even know where to begin! I only see through a viewfinder - and what I see there is what you guys get (and most often, most of you don't care for it.)

I think they should all be Expert challenges. It get me to give it all up once and for all and save me a LOT of time! :-)

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12/01/2011 09:36:24 AM · #13

Originally posted by Melethia:

I can usually do a decent cloning job, but just like

Melethia says...I can't see how or where to use what toolset to use...but cheer up, Deb, at least you know blending/shading/erasing/revealing...I don't know any of that.

FWIW I rarely stray outside the safe confines of the Adjustments menu. That, plus a little dodge and burn, a little hit of cloning if needed, and eh wala 98% of my images are done. More recently I've begun playing a little with HDR.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

12/01/2011 09:37:44 AM · #14

It's like karate, Susan. I can spell it, but that's all I know about it. I really don't have any idea what "shading" is, or blending or revealing for that matter. I have, in the past, used the eraser tool! There's that! :-)