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11/29/2011 09:02:16 AM · #1 |
I'm not American but if I were I would be a democrat, not republican (Although I do like Ron Paul). That said, this woman coming out saying she had a 13 yr affair with Cain seems like someone looking for a bit of fame. She hasn't accused him of anything other than treating her to 'rendezvous' and taking her away from her 'boring' life. Why is she coming out and saying this can only mean one thing to me...and that's publicity or that she's a democrat and playing dirty. As much as I wouldn't like to see Cain as POTUS, I don't see what 2 consenting adults may or may not have done to having anything to do with running for president.
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11/29/2011 09:17:49 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by heavyj:
I'm not American but if I were I would be a democrat, not republican (Although I do like Ron Paul). That said, this woman coming out saying she had a 13 yr affair with Cain seems like someone looking for a bit of fame. She hasn't accused him of anything other than treating her to 'rendezvous' and taking her away from her 'boring' life. Why is she coming out and saying this can only mean one thing to me...and that's publicity or that she's a democrat and playing dirty. As much as I wouldn't like to see Cain as POTUS, I don't see what 2 consenting adults may or may not have done to having anything to do with running for president.
Anyone else feel this way? |
No one is clean here... Cain is a businessman and not a politician, he is the easy target and loved for no one (Democrats or Republicans) so, all the dirty clots get out very fast and easy to destroy him. Ron Paul, well, same, but no one touches him thinking his foreign policies are crazy and not many people vote for him anyways. To win presidency in this country, you will have to sleep with politicians first, in both isles. Literally, when I say "sleep", I mean sleep, almost like having sex one and another (or pay a lot). These woman coming out, crying "I didn't want to do this, but"... I am sorry girls, but you all are 5 cents whores, otherwise you wouldn't even get close to someone is married, he didn't rape you, you went to him.
Message edited by author 2011-11-29 09:19:21. |
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11/29/2011 09:33:51 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by heavyj:
As much as I wouldn't like to see Cain as POTUS, I don't see what 2 consenting adults may or may not have done to having anything to do with running for president.
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I don't. For me, this speaks to his character and morality. He is an ordained minister and is running for President of our country. He is running for an office in which he is expected to swear an oath in order to occupy that office. If the allegations are true, then the fact that he can compromise the principles and promises of his marriage makes me question his choices when considering moral decisions of far greater importance.
Regarding him being an ordained minister, I am not a very religious person so my position is not based on religion. It's based, again, on what I perceive to be his poor character.
Regarding whether he is completely an innocent victim of all of these women: I don't think that he is innocent of all of the accusations, if any. That's not likely no matter what the motives of the 'come latelys' are. |
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11/29/2011 09:43:52 AM · #4 |
I'm not American, so I don't understand how politicians there are judged on their morality.
Here in Ireland we feel lucky if we elect a handful of politicians who aren't corrupt. We don't really care about their personal lives or how much drugs they took in college. As long as they don't steal our money, we're happy.
Which is why I didn't get the whole Monica Lewinsky, or the 'I didn't inhale' episodes. Why all the fuss? |
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11/29/2011 09:46:11 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by heavyj:
I'm not American but if I were I would be a democrat, not republican (Although I do like Ron Paul) |
Ron Paul from the little I am able to keep up with seems to be who I like best. But again I say... The LITTLE I am able to keep up with. |
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11/29/2011 09:57:30 AM · #6 |
My biggest hangup with these politicos that drag their...personal parts...all over the place is that if they can't keep their promises to the one person who is supposed to mean more to them than anyone, I sure as heck don't trust them.
I mean, come on.....can't you put your urges and impulses aside long enough to have your personal integrity mean something?????
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11/29/2011 10:18:27 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
My biggest hangup with these politicos that drag their...personal parts...all over the place is that if they can't keep their promises to the one person who is supposed to mean more to them than anyone, I sure as heck don't trust them.
I mean, come on.....can't you put your urges and impulses aside long enough to have your personal integrity mean something????? |
They believe it shouldn't matter... Separation of Crotch and State. |
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11/29/2011 10:21:22 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
My biggest hangup with these politicos that drag their...personal parts...all over the place is that if they can't keep their promises to the one person who is supposed to mean more to them than anyone, I sure as heck don't trust them.
I mean, come on.....can't you put your urges and impulses aside long enough to have your personal integrity mean something????? |
Originally posted by skewsme:
They believe it shouldn't matter... Separation of Crotch and State. |
ROFLMSOAO!!!
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11/29/2011 10:25:56 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
My biggest hangup with these politicos that drag their...personal parts...all over the place is that if they can't keep their promises to the one person who is supposed to mean more to them than anyone, I sure as heck don't trust them.
I mean, come on.....can't you put your urges and impulses aside long enough to have your personal integrity mean something????? |
They believe it shouldn't matter... Separation of Crotch and State. |
Rofl. This made me laugh in the middle of class. Lol!!! |
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11/29/2011 11:10:29 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by JH:
Which is why I didn't get the whole Monica Lewinsky, or the 'I didn't inhale' episodes. Why all the fuss? |
Because Americans, collectively, are a nation of hypocritical, moralizing voyeurs. They WANT to watch people crash and burn, it's like the national sport. They derive pleasure from finger-pointing and sanctimonious, holier-than-thou sermonizing. And they love picking over the decomposing carcasses of the formerly-respected for delectable, overlooked morsels as well.
This obviously doesn't apply to all Americans, but it's clearly a defining characteristic of a significant, and very visible/vocal, minority.
(That's my dyspeptic rant for the day, sorry folks...)
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11/29/2011 11:34:59 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
Separation of Crotch and State. |
LOL best thing I've read in a long time! |
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11/29/2011 11:47:10 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by JH:
Which is why I didn't get the whole Monica Lewinsky, or the 'I didn't inhale' episodes. Why all the fuss? |
Because Americans, collectively, are a nation of hypocritical, moralizing voyeurs. They WANT to watch people crash and burn, it's like the national sport. They derive pleasure from finger-pointing and sanctimonious, holier-than-thou sermonizing. And they love picking over the decomposing carcasses of the formerly-respected for delectable, overlooked morsels as well.
This obviously doesn't apply to all Americans, but it's clearly a defining characteristic of a significant, and very visible/vocal, minority.
(That's my dyspeptic rant for the day, sorry folks...)
R. |
Or there are those of us who only enjoy it when the person in question is one of the hypocritical, moralizing types themselves. I love watching those type crash & burn for sure. I have no problem with a politian having an affair (they're only human after all), but I have a problem with the ones doing the finger pointing when they're guilty of so much more. |
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11/29/2011 12:29:49 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Or there are those of us who only enjoy it when the person in question is one of the hypocritical, moralizing types themselves. I love watching those type crash & burn for sure. I have no problem with a politian having an affair (they're only human after all), but I have a problem with the ones doing the finger pointing when they're guilty of so much more. |
I concur with this sentiment. |
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11/29/2011 12:45:01 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by bhuge:
Originally posted by skewsme:
Separation of Crotch and State. |
LOL best thing I've read in a long time! |
Nice ! :D
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11/29/2011 12:54:41 PM · #15 |
I think you guys are selling Cain's affairs and sexual harrassments a little short. If he became president, he could stick his hand down China's crotch and find out once and for all if they have ICBMs or not. His grope hand could prove invaluable in the war on terror.
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11/29/2011 01:26:45 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Or there are those of us who only enjoy it when the person in question is one of the hypocritical, moralizing types themselves. I love watching those type crash & burn for sure. I have no problem with a politian having an affair (they're only human after all), but I have a problem with the ones doing the finger pointing when they're guilty of so much more. |
I don't get what people don't understand about the word "politician"... Your surprised when they lie... Really..... Come on people... wake up for crying out loud! I don't vote but anyone that does clearly does NOT want an honest person in power - and no honest person would bother going thru the motions anyway. That is true of any country of any party - something to do with the mob mentality of a group vs. an individual I guess.... Maybe group think.... I have no clue. To me they are all slime.... and so obviously that I just don't understand people who don't see that.
As for separation of church and state in the US... don't make me laugh. Replace "God" with "Allah" in the next presidential speech/debate/diatribe you hear and see if you would disagree with what is said..... Replace the brainwashing I hear in the school in the morning with a passage from the Koran and see if you still think it's separate.... |
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11/29/2011 01:32:22 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by robs:
I don't get what people don't understand about the word "politician"... Your surprised when they lie... |
HONEST POLITICIAN (n) One who, once bought, stays bought.
-Herbert V. Prochnow (A Dictionary of Wit, Wisdom, and Satire) |
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11/29/2011 01:34:35 PM · #18 |
I like Cain's policies and he would be a ton better than what we have now. I might not like the individual, I vote for the man or woman that I think will do a better job...And yes I defended Clinton when he was in the same type of mess
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11/29/2011 01:47:54 PM · #19 |
| if we have seperation of church and state...yeah right...then how can cain be president he has to give up being a preacher first. |
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11/29/2011 02:30:00 PM · #20 |
I could not imagine trusting a man as president who had a 13 year affair. If you can lie to the person who you have vowed to hold in the highest position of your life for that long then what else are you capable of lying about? Put it this way, if you had two identical candidates and one had a 13 year affair, I'd vote for the other one 100 times out of 100. Cain, as a candidate, certainly has not distinguished himself as rising above any of the rest of the Republican circus.
Message edited by author 2011-11-29 14:31:04. |
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11/29/2011 02:37:17 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Cain, as a candidate, certainly has not distinguished himself as rising above any of the rest of the Republican circus. |
Sure he has!
As a clown!
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11/29/2011 02:44:49 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by o2bskating:
if we have seperation of church and state...yeah right...then how can cain be president he has to give up being a preacher first. |
Aww, c'mon, that has nothing to do with it LOL. We have had genuinely God-fearing presidents without losing the republic. That's not what separation of church and state is about. The issue, for the founding fathers, was that we must NEVER have an official, state-supported religion in America. The Pilgrims were FLEEING that sort of oppression when they left England. There's nothing to keep a minister from being president; the amendment just keeps the country from making LAWS abridging freedom of speech, press, or religion.
Originally posted by first amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. |
Note that this first amendment covers what the OWS "occupiers" are doing...
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11/29/2011 02:50:47 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Note that this first amendment covers what the OWS "occupiers" are doing...
R. |
The first amendment doesn't cover everything that the OWS "occupiers" are doing. My son made the point to me recently that the even the right to free speech is not meant to be a "free for all". There are rules outside of the first amendment that need to be observed while exercising one's rights. |
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11/29/2011 02:51:25 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by yakatme:
Originally posted by heavyj:
As much as I wouldn't like to see Cain as POTUS, I don't see what 2 consenting adults may or may not have done to having anything to do with running for president.
Anyone else feel this way? |
I don't. For me, this speaks to his character and morality. He is an ordained minister and is running for President of our country. He is running for an office in which he is expected to swear an oath in order to occupy that office. If the allegations are true, then the fact that he can compromise the principles and promises of his marriage makes me question his choices when considering moral decisions of far greater importance.
Regarding him being an ordained minister, I am not a very religious person so my position is not based on religion. It's based, again, on what I perceive to be his poor character.
Regarding whether he is completely an innocent victim of all of these women: I don't think that he is innocent of all of the accusations, if any. That's not likely no matter what the motives of the 'come latelys' are. |
Do you realize what it takes to run and become president? Do you think that these unemployed actresses deserve all the attention they're getting when they fail to provide one shred of evidence? Do you think that these women should be able to dismantle a presidential campaign with nothing more than baseless accusations? That doesn't seem American to me. It appears that our political process has been hijacked. |
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11/29/2011 02:55:09 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by kgeary:
Do you realize what it takes to run and become president? Do you think that these unemployed actresses deserve all the attention they're getting when they fail to provide one shred of evidence? Do you think that these women should be able to dismantle a presidential campaign with nothing more than baseless accusations? That doesn't seem American to me. It appears that our political process has been hijacked. |
Did you notice that Cain's lawyer's statement did not deny the affair (while he has denied the other allegations)? Instead of "I didn't do this" it was "it's none of your business". In these days of political double-speak, that speaks volumes. He's guilty as sin, especially when you see the pattern of the accusations. |
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