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11/09/2011 04:27:42 AM · #1
is DOF a bad thing in a challenge i shot my foliage at 2.8 and im getting hammered for being out of focus, yet there is a clear crisp sweet spot but L 2.8 zooms give a nice fall off which i love, should i be shooting everything a 5.6-8 to get it all in focus and have no depth?
11/09/2011 04:38:35 AM · #2
Originally posted by Giles_uk:

is DOF a bad thing in a challenge i shot my foliage at 2.8 and im getting hammered for being out of focus, yet there is a clear crisp sweet spot but L 2.8 zooms give a nice fall off which i love, should i be shooting everything a 5.6-8 to get it all in focus and have no depth?




What makes this image is DOF. I had EXACTLY what I wanted. It is F1.8

So, depending on your photo, just go with your heart. However, listen to comments, you just don't have to follow all of them.



This was hammered for same reason, also f1.8 , I still like it the way it is very much!
11/09/2011 08:46:37 AM · #3
Depends on the image and depends on the viewer.
11/09/2011 08:48:42 AM · #4
I'm pretty much obsessed with shallow DOF, so go for it.
11/09/2011 08:52:43 AM · #5
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Depends on the image and depends on the viewer.

Nothing more really needs to be said, but I will anyway.

Foliage is particularly tough, as there often isn't enough separation between your subject and the background. There is no clear break. You can look at the last FS to find some very nice flower shots that are on their own, and entirely in focus. But if just the leading edge of a flower, or one flower is sharp while the next is nearly sharp, it's just not as powerful or interesting. Trees, leaves, whatever are in the same boat.

My take on shallow DoF, at least. Unless it's doing something for you image it can create awkward transitions.
11/09/2011 10:08:55 AM · #6
This was shot at f/1.4 and did pretty well for me...
11/09/2011 11:10:05 AM · #7
I am having the same problems in Golden Ratio.....but mine is a little less obvious so I can understand when people say its out of focus. But I wish their was an eye warming up session for voters like an eye chart E G Y U I O at different DOF. I figure some people just need lasik or something.
11/09/2011 11:56:56 AM · #8
ok, I love shallow DoF as do some of the lesser mainstream members!
This one is a fave of mine, but it scored a 5.03. 5 commenting averaged 8.2 including some heavy hitters on this site, so it's very personal.


If you want votes, you usually need a bit deeper DoF. if you want artistic and to follow your vision as the photographer, do whatever you like and to heck with the voters!
EDITED FOR TYPO

Message edited by author 2011-11-09 11:57:32.
11/09/2011 11:58:54 AM · #9
I will also add that subject matter also helps dictate DoF and the feel you are trying to portray as the "visionary".
11/09/2011 12:23:32 PM · #10
Hey Giles you got a posthumous award.............Congrats.
11/09/2011 12:28:06 PM · #11
From bergiekatIf you want votes, you usually need a bit deeper DoF. if you want artistic and to follow your vision as the photographer, do whatever you like and to heck with the voters!

That exactly what I was trying to say to you before Giles, but couldn,t put it into words as well as Kat has ....
11/09/2011 12:33:04 PM · #12
Shallow DoF is a difficult thing to do well. But done well, it can be stunningly good. take a look at some of ursula's stuff to see just how good.
11/09/2011 03:17:32 PM · #13
Originally posted by sinistral_leo:

This was shot at f/1.4 and did pretty well for me...


This worked so well because it WAS f/1.4.
11/09/2011 04:48:48 PM · #14
Originally posted by bergiekat:

ok, I love shallow DoF as do some of the lesser mainstream members!
This one is a fave of mine, but it scored a 5.03. 5 commenting averaged 8.2 including some heavy hitters on this site, so it's very personal.


If you want votes, you usually need a bit deeper DoF. if you want artistic and to follow your vision as the photographer, do whatever you like and to heck with the voters!
EDITED FOR TYPO


Like :), I love my 2.8 , 1.8 and 1.4s love shallow dof, just have to resist the urge to pop rd and have a cuppa with the out of focus crowd. No it's focused just ona very select bit hehe.

I don't get the nonse toilet roll shot all my rolls are that small hehe :(

Wonder what the mrs said with you sat on loo with camera aimed at your croch haha :)

Message edited by author 2011-11-09 16:53:00.
11/09/2011 06:16:59 PM · #15
Ursula is about as good as anyone with shallow-DOF flowers-and-stuff, and she's managed to score with them...



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11/09/2011 07:14:57 PM · #16
Perfect examples!! Bottom line: Shoot what you want and stay true to yourself. No one ever knows exactly what you are seeing when you shoot something so it's not their place to bash it (but some feel compelled as everyone is supposed to see things the way THEY, the voter, interpret it! Ha! lol!
11/10/2011 05:16:20 AM · #17
love with a passion the blue flower and the translucent orange one wow....

i just wonder if some of the newer photograhers or those shooting with kit lens 5.6+ actual know about dof/bokeh lol etc as i keep getting comments from ppl with the more consumer end cameras about out of focus, i can upload an aperture screen shot showing 8 focus points from the af sensor lol
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