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11/08/2011 06:40:30 AM · #1 |
I wish! Even after looking at some of the photos just above mine, I can't see what I did to earn the brown.
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11/08/2011 07:54:45 AM · #2 |
I was thinking the same thing as soon as I saw this shot.
Something is wrong with this whole system... |
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11/08/2011 08:04:59 AM · #3 |
Thanks,  sinistral_leo.
I'm not trying to suggest that it should have got a high score. I can see the flaws. But why is it worse than some of those just above it? |
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11/08/2011 08:05:26 AM · #4 |
Don,t wish to sound mean but if that is the case you need to look longer and harder.
In my view the front page images of practically every challenge deserve to be where they are, and generally the placings of the rest of the entries will be as expected.
OK there will always be some that each of us don,t agree with ,but that,s mainly a matter of taste etc.
I think one of the many best ways to learn a small lesson is to look at as many images as you can,both on this site and the zillions of others out there.
All the Best. |
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11/08/2011 09:33:23 AM · #5 |
| Adding to this the subject could be difficult to score highly at DPC unless it is a photo of a swan taking off in the mist in the perfect lighting conditions :) |
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11/08/2011 09:57:19 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Adding to this the subject could be difficult to score highly at DPC unless it is a photo of a swan taking off in the mist in the perfect lighting conditions :) |
agreed |
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11/08/2011 10:11:31 AM · #7 |
Gina is not suggesting it should be on the front page, but it is a little ridiculous to brown out...
This image of mine which I know sucks, but still scored in the 5's  (granted not in a FS). I think Gina's is a way better shot but scored a low 4... Doesn't make sense.
I don't want to call out any of the pictures in particular that scored higher, but come on... really? |
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11/08/2011 10:28:28 AM · #8 |
Yours really is in a different class to my eye.
But then again its all a matter of opinion ent it. |
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11/08/2011 10:44:13 AM · #9 |
Browns happen every challenge. Check out the comment from Juli on this one of mine...  . Think about, then move on and be proud of it! |
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11/08/2011 10:55:28 AM · #10 |
As sinistral_leo said, I'm not trying to suggest that it should have done well, not even that it should have scored over 5. But 4.2 seems a bit harsh, especially compared to some photos that did marginally better.
And to look at my own portfolio is it really worse than this monstrosity?
I still can't believe I ever entered that chicken.
Message edited by author 2011-11-08 10:56:33. |
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11/08/2011 11:22:41 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
I wish! Even after looking at some of the photos just above mine, I can't see what I did to earn the brown.
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exactly what i was thinking, especially the hamburger.
don't despair, go for the posthumous in future, its way more fun. |
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11/08/2011 11:23:48 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
As sinistral_leo said, I'm not trying to suggest that it should have done well, not even that it should have scored over 5. But 4.2 seems a bit harsh, especially compared to some photos that did marginally better.
And to look at my own portfolio is it really worse than this monstrosity?
I still can't believe I ever entered that chicken. |
I LOVE the chicken. It's different and unique
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11/08/2011 11:24:20 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by whiteroom:
...especially the hamburger... |
I like the hamburger... but now I'm hungry.
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11/08/2011 11:37:52 AM · #14 |
I agree with you. Your shot is much better than some of the shots ahead of you. I don't really get it.
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11/08/2011 11:47:44 AM · #15 |
It's the vignette-to-white aspect of it. Most of the time, that's the kiss of death. Bet it cost you at LEAST half a point in score.
R.
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11/08/2011 11:52:49 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It's the vignette-to-white aspect of it. Most of the time, that's the kiss of death. Bet it cost you at LEAST half a point in score.
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Thanks Robert. That's not something that would ever have dawned on me. I just found the whole thing too dark without the vignette. I'll try a re-edit a little later. Sadly there's no way to see how it would affect the score. |
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11/08/2011 11:56:16 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by whiteroom:
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
I wish! Even after looking at some of the photos just above mine, I can't see what I did to earn the brown.
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exactly what i was thinking, especially the hamburger.
don't despair, go for the posthumous in future, its way more fun. |
That would be okay. Unfortunately posthumous didn't like it either. |
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11/08/2011 12:04:43 PM · #18 |
light is very blue and harsh, warm photo filter might help.
contrast is very strong - delicate details are lost.
dpc usually punishes centered close crops.
also, this bird is clearly hung over, his eyes are all red and he's drooling ;-)
if it were mine, i'd try it in a low contrast sepia and probably land much higher, like on the 2nd to last page ;-) |
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11/08/2011 12:13:53 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
if it were mine, i'd try it in a low contrast sepia and probably land much higher, like on the 2nd to last page ;-) |
I always experiment with black & white and sepia first. For some reason my average score is much higher for BW and sepia than it is for colour, and there is virtually no colour in my top line (even with 9 images showing). Technically some of those are colour photos, but they look more like sepia. |
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11/08/2011 12:39:55 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
For some reason my average score is much higher for BW and sepia than it is for colour, and there is virtually no colour in my top line (even with 9 images showing). |
If you are scoring that much better with B&W than your color, you know what you have to work on. DPC loves color, except yours it seems. Time to strip down your process and rethink what you are doing when you get to color in post.
Ape the style of others for a few days, switch it all up and use new tools and approaches. Our aesthetics are sometimes set by the limits of our craft (or more often the patterns we are used to assuming), so even if you like the look you are producing, see what its like to live in someone else's process. I find I get more out of parodying the work of someone I don't much care for that trying to copy work I really like, because it forces me to create effects and use processes that I would never normally use. Try it, you will probably hate it, but it might expand your craft a bit. |
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11/08/2011 12:49:43 PM · #21 |
| Or accept the fact that colour isn't my thing... |
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11/08/2011 12:56:18 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Or accept the fact that colour isn't my thing... |
Always a possibility, ever seen Ansel Adams' color work? Not exactly the level of mastery of his B&W.
So, ya, it might be easier to only work in B&W. Of course when my daughter said "Calculus isn't really my thing" we made her learn it anyway. It is important to know stuff even if you won't use it every day. |
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11/08/2011 01:05:13 PM · #23 |
Colour version, closer to natural
Black & white
They probably could be better, but I haven't time right now. |
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11/08/2011 01:09:46 PM · #24 |
I thought the hamburger was quite nice
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11/08/2011 02:38:16 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by whiteroom:
...especially the hamburger. |
Maybe there's a food bias. Perhaps if you cooked the duck... |
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