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07/28/2004 09:11:58 PM · #1
How about taking an offensive or controversial pic? That is the kind of pics I seem to have been taking lately after reading some of my comments. I just like to do things out of the box. I think it is makes life more interesting :)
07/28/2004 09:15:58 PM · #2
That doesn't seem logical. There's very little that I find "controversial" or "offensive." Even if I did think of something I find offensive, why would I want to offend myself?
07/28/2004 09:16:12 PM · #3
absolutely!!! I love the last few things that you did. I need something new, edgy.....
dc
07/28/2004 09:20:58 PM · #4
Dyslexic:
Because it's a creative stretch. It's relatively easy to take photos of something that looks nice, is pretty, beautiful, has mass appeal...

It's another thing entirely to capture the offensive or controversial nature of a situation, place, or person - or object for that matter. Offensive could mean visually, viscerally, conceptually... Controversy surrounds many things in life... It wouldn't have to be offensive if it were something you enjoyed but that was the center of controversy. Conveying that in an image is the hard part.

I personally like this idea and agree with dcano - I'd like to see something edgy and new, something that moves me and makes me think. I'd like to capture that myself...
07/28/2004 09:25:43 PM · #5
Originally posted by animes2k:

Dyslexic:
Because it's a creative stretch. It's relatively easy to take photos of something that looks nice, is pretty, beautiful, has mass appeal...

Perhaps for you. I struggle with all aspects of photography.

Originally posted by animes2k:


I'd like to see something edgy and new, something that moves me and makes me think. I'd like to capture that myself...


Isn't that the point of every challenge on this site?
07/28/2004 09:28:42 PM · #6
No, the point of every challenge on this site is to win. That's what people vote for. (a winner)
07/28/2004 10:01:36 PM · #7
Originally posted by wimbello:

No, the point of every challenge on this site is to win. That's what people vote for. (a winner)


Unfortunately.

I would LOVE a challenge that allowed me to do my "worst"
07/28/2004 10:07:51 PM · #8
I don’t necessarily agree with wimbello. I think this site is about improving our craft. I think we always need to be pushing the envelope, otherwise we can spend the rest of our days looking at pictures of flowersâ€Â¦.
Dc
07/28/2004 10:16:20 PM · #9
Originally posted by wwwavenger:

Originally posted by wimbello:

No, the point of every challenge on this site is to win. That's what people vote for. (a winner)


Unfortunately.

I would LOVE a challenge that allowed me to do my "worst"


Actually, that would be kind of cool - a challenge where the object is to score as low as possible. The Brown Ribbon challenge.
07/28/2004 10:45:57 PM · #10
Originally posted by BikeRacer:

Originally posted by wwwavenger:

Originally posted by wimbello:

No, the point of every challenge on this site is to win. That's what people vote for. (a winner)


Unfortunately.

I would LOVE a challenge that allowed me to do my "worst"


Actually, that would be kind of cool - a challenge where the object is to score as low as possible. The Brown Ribbon challenge.


I don't think that was the intention of Bassie's suggestion.
07/28/2004 11:34:50 PM · #11
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07/29/2004 12:47:33 AM · #12
Originally posted by Dyslexic:


Perhaps for you. I struggle with all aspects of photography.

I assume this to be some fun had at your own expense. Nice play on words, but tell me it's not *easier* (not necessarily EASY, that's why I said "relatively easy") to take pictures of pretty things...

Originally posted by Dyslexic:


Originally posted by animes2k:


I'd like to see something edgy and new, something that moves me and makes me think. I'd like to capture that myself...

Isn't that the point of every challenge on this site?


I can see the part about something that moves you being a possible part of the point of the challenges, but I think to some extent wimbello is right with the assertion that the point is to win, or to score highly.

If any ONE thing, the challenges are an education in what makes a widely marketable photograph.

I also agree with dcano... it's sort of a "basic education" in some regards. I don't think it's the basic education a lot of us think it is, as most of us are true amateurs leading other amateurs. There's seldom something on here that presents a true unique vision (some notable exclusions apply).

If we were truly dedicated to embracing the improvement of our craft, we'd be out there taking courses and assisting established photographers and learning everything we could. I think a lot (note: not "ALL") of what can be learned from this site could be summed up in a basic lighting course and a book called "Cool Photographic Tricks".

It's not necessarily a fault, but you see it - and take it - for what it is.

For most, photography is a hobby, the challenges are enough, and they do lend enough of an education.

Back on topic - we could have an "offensive or controversial" challenge but I'm guessing most of the most moving and powerful images wouldn't be near the top. Not to say I don't endorse said challenge suggestion wholeheartedly. I would WANT to see those entries.

And thanks to Concrete Donkey for making me vomit. :)

Message edited by author 2004-07-29 00:49:37.
07/29/2004 01:07:00 AM · #13
I think what you guys mean is to have an "outrageous" challenge.
07/29/2004 01:16:15 AM · #14
no, no.. I'd like to have an offensive/controversial challenge :)
07/29/2004 01:18:18 AM · #15
How do we reconcile that with this?

4.2 You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that (i) infringes the rights of a third party, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademarks, patents, trade secrets, rights of privacy and publicity, (ii) is libelous, defamatory or slanderous, (iii) condones, promotes, contains or links to warez, cracks, hacks or similar utilities or programs, (iv) contains explicitly sexual content, (v) does or may denigrate or offend any ethnic, racial, gender, religious or other protected group, through use of language, images, stereotypical depiction or otherwise, (vi) is designed to or does harass, threaten, defame or abuse others, (vii) exploits images or the likeness of minors, (viii) encourages or depicts the use of drugs, alcohol or cigarettes or (ix) is generally offensive or in bad taste.

It would seem odd to run a challenge that would invite people to break that... we would have a lot of DQ's I would think... and a lot more requests to deal with. And no, we can't put a suspension of the Terms of Use in the "Extra Rules" for a challenge.

-Terry
07/29/2004 01:24:16 AM · #16
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

It would seem odd to run a challenge that would invite people to break that... we would have a lot of DQ's I would think... and a lot more requests to deal with. And no, we can't put a suspension of the Terms of Use in the "Extra Rules" for a challenge.


I don't see anything there that would *have* to be broken for an offensive or controversial challenge.
And for the record, I've seen nearly every one of those subsections bent. :)

Not saying their bending should be condoned specifically for a challenge...
07/29/2004 01:35:21 AM · #17
I'm just saying I think it would stip up a lot of trouble to run a challenge all but encouraging people to push the limits of that section, then violate images that push them too far.

If nothing else it would at least create a lot of extra work for Site Council.

-Terry
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