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08/22/2011 09:42:57 PM · #51
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by tnun:

It does seem to me that in our efforts to "understand" the universe - that is, "scientifically" - we are in the process of destroying it. I myself am not biased, but concerned.


Huh? We're one insignificant species. On one insignificant rock. Orbiting one insignificant star, in one insignificant arm of one insignificant spiral galaxy out on the edge of a universe whose immensity we cannot even BEGIN to comprehend, and somehow we are going to destroy it?

R.


I am with Bear on this one. I've heard really crazy environmental wackery but I doubt anything will ever top this.

ETA: Robert, you may want to edit your post and give proper credit to the author of such memorable statement, it wasn't tnun, I think, or was it?

Message edited by author 2011-08-22 21:50:30.
08/22/2011 10:12:50 PM · #52
Originally posted by senor_kasper:

ETA: Robert, you may want to edit your post and give proper credit to the author of such memorable statement, it wasn't tnun, I think, or was it?


I donno if he SAID it, but he POSTED it; that's what I know :-)

R.
08/22/2011 10:39:57 PM · #53
I think there is some basic misconception of what it is to understand something. I get the impression that a lot of people think that building up the body of science means that we understand more.

Ok, I really meant that we were destroying planet earth, not the universe, though who knows....

(Oh, and Bear, I haven't decided to go for the sex change. Yet).
08/22/2011 11:13:21 PM · #54
Originally posted by tnun:

I think there is some basic misconception of what it is to understand something. I get the impression that a lot of people think that building up the body of science means that we understand more.

Ok, I really meant that we were destroying planet earth, not the universe, though who knows....

(Oh, and Bear, I haven't decided to go for the sex change. Yet).


Well, strangely enough, I happen to be one of those people who tend to think that scientific examination does lead to greater understanding. I also, however, know that science cannot prove anything, for the only real value in science is the ability to disprove.
08/23/2011 01:05:28 AM · #55
Originally posted by tnun:

Ok, I really meant that we were destroying planet earth, not the universe, though who knows....

We have to start somewhere.
08/23/2011 01:12:30 AM · #56
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by tnun:

Ok, I really meant that we were destroying planet earth, not the universe, though who knows....

We have to start somewhere.
:)
08/23/2011 01:07:04 PM · #57
Originally posted by tnun:

But what is it FOR?

Originally posted by raish:

Originally posted by Naila Murray:

... We hope to use these assessments to create photo albums, catalogs, or other similar products.

Image analysis is very big these days, especially in the field of facial/object-recognition in the security field.

In this case, I think they are looking at ways to automate some processes. For example, if you are the art director assembling a catalog, you might have several shots of each product. It might be possible to develop an algorithm which could select the "best" shot of each product to use, leaving more time to work on the actual layout and copy.

Or it might be used to winnow out obviously OOF, color-shifted or "poorly-composed" photos leaving the photo editor more time to concentrate on and pick from only the "better" photos, National Geographic, which often has 10,000 photos/story to go through. might be able to use something like this.

I'm pretty sure the smart folks at Xerox can think up something ... they have a more-than-respectable record at bringing innovation to the masses ...

Originally posted by scalvert:

It would be funny if the actual focus of Xerox was to test photographers' reactions to the inquiry. We've gone from, "Does this sound legit?" to, "Humans are destroying the universe." Interesting... [scribble, scribble...]

LOL -- you might be on to something there ... though I'm a little confused -- are we destroying the universe by taking pictures of it?
08/23/2011 01:20:58 PM · #58
Ah well, I was far too hasty. I think it important for a corporation to be able to create albums, catalogues, and even family memories. Oops, there I go again: they only want to help the masses out of their photochaos. I'm waiting for the package deal: camera plus anticamera.
08/23/2011 01:34:05 PM · #59
Originally posted by tnun:

Ah well, I was far too hasty. I think it important for a corporation to be able to create albums, catalogues, and even family memories. Oops, there I go again: they only want to help the masses out of their photochaos. I'm waiting for the package deal: camera plus anticamera.

They don't want to make albums, they (probably) want to sell you (or a design studio) a program to make albums. Besides, I didn't say it was a good idea to do this, just speculating on how an "image analysis algorithm" could possibly be used. Or they might be planing something else entirely ...
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