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08/10/2011 07:02:31 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Speaking of great stories, there was another one buried in the news today that I would have expected to command a much bigger headline! |
Man, I hope that pans out! 3 patients is hardly a sample, but geez, what a story. |
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08/10/2011 07:23:03 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Cory:
This is one of the things I HATE about religion... No thanks for those who did something... Only thanks to an imaginary deity.. Shame. Makes me not want to help someone who will thank "God" for my efforts.. |
It was a church group, so of course they're going to thank whichever deity they worship for the outcome (and place no responsibility for allowing the emergency to occur in the first place). I'm sure they're also immensely grateful for the rescuers' heroic efforts, and probably regard them as being sent or guided by a greater power, too. Heck, the rescuers themselves might even be thanking a god, and not necessarily the same one. Who cares? If it had been a member of a remote tribe rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard and all the tribesman were chanting praises to Umbugubuga and kissing coconuts to express their gratitude, it's still a miraculous rescue and a great photo even if some thanks is unwarranted.
Speaking of great stories, there was another one buried in the news today that I would have expected to command a much bigger headline! |
I saw that one too. One bit of "bad news" is in the last line of the journal abstract. "Hypogammaglobulinemia was an expected chronic toxic effect." The cells were highly successful at wiping out B-cells (which is what the leukemia is composed of), but they persist so they will keep wiping out B-cells. The patients will then look like someone with a hereditary condition called "X-linked agammaglobulinemia". The therapy for that is chronic infusions of antibodies from a pooled donor source or a bone marrow transplant, but that was already a treatment for CLL.
Still, very interesting results. |
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08/10/2011 07:44:22 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Speaking of great stories, there was another one buried in the news today that I would have expected to command a much bigger headline! |
It's a miracle!
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08/10/2011 07:53:36 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
It's a miracle! |
To trade one fatal disease that is treated with IVIG and/or bone marrow transplant for another fatal disease that is treated with...IVIG and/or bone marrow transplant. Methinks you sell the term a bit short. ;) |
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08/10/2011 08:00:21 PM · #30 |
| To try to unhijack the tread, you can apparently follow Dale's progress on the blog prayersfordale.blogspot.com. |
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08/10/2011 08:05:12 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
To try to unhijack the tread, you can apparently follow Dale's progress on the blog prayersfordale.blogspot.com. |
Seriously? You can make contributions on that site, which is something I'd have expected the family needs at the moment. So why is it called 'prayers for dale' ?
I don't get it. I also can't find the 'prayer' button, is it near 'donate' ?
Edited to remove some stuff, a rule 12 caused me to rule 10, and get a rule 12 in return. So I'll defer to rule 13.
Message edited by author 2011-08-10 21:01:12. |
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08/10/2011 08:28:09 PM · #32 |
your kidding. I'm not baiting at all. I didn't name the site. It looks like the family is updating Dale's condition and it's always nice to hear the outcomes of stories like this. By the look of it, it looks like donations and food are mainly coming from the family's congregation. Church people tend to take care of each other in times of need.
Edit: I removed some stuff becauseni think I was being baited myself.
Message edited by author 2011-08-10 20:48:01. |
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08/10/2011 08:49:09 PM · #33 |
| I can't imangine the feelings that were going thru the photographer at the time. I'd be torn up, want to get the shot, not knowing if it was proper to photograph what could have been a dead child, tears for the child and his parents.. hummm makes me wonder what I'd really do. I supose they Would NOT have posted that photo had the child died, but I'd have felt really weird if I had that pix of a dead child.. |
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08/10/2011 10:15:54 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Spork99:
It's a miracle! |
To trade one fatal disease that is treated with IVIG and/or bone marrow transplant for another fatal disease that is treated with...IVIG and/or bone marrow transplant. Methinks you sell the term a bit short. ;) |
From reading the article, I'm not sure what you mean. The HIV is a harmless form. So what disease are they trading too? |
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08/10/2011 10:28:46 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
From reading the article, I'm not sure what you mean. The HIV is a harmless form. So what disease are they trading too? |
The treatment targets B-lymphocytes, which wipes out the leukemia, but may keep attacking healthy B cells after the cancer is gone. Then patient would then need infusions of gammaglobulin from donated blood about once a month to ward off infection. I suspect researchers may develop this gene therapy to allow
"turning off" the treatment once the cancer has been eradicated. There's still a long way to go, but it appears to be an exciting breakthrough. |
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08/10/2011 11:17:12 PM · #36 |
| Yes, exactly what Shannon said. It's a start but the holy grail would then be to be able to turn off your little army of B-cells after they had destroyed the leukemia. One other issue that has occurred with therapies using viral vectors is having the genes insert in a place that turns on an oncogene. They had this trouble when they treated kids with agammaglobulinemia with gene therapy. I believe 25% of the small group of kids developed lymphoma or leukemia. |
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08/11/2011 12:08:00 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Yes, exactly what Shannon said. It's a start but the holy grail would then be to be able to turn off your little army of B-cells after they had destroyed the leukemia. One other issue that has occurred with therapies using viral vectors is having the genes insert in a place that turns on an oncogene. They had this trouble when they treated kids with agammaglobulinemia with gene therapy. I believe 25% of the small group of kids developed lymphoma or leukemia. |
lols, determined to swim up river... Hats off to being kind though. |
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08/11/2011 12:15:03 AM · #38 |
Another cool article that kind of fits here.
Amputee who designs better limbs |
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08/11/2011 06:15:48 AM · #39 |
Praise be to Jesus for guiding his hand while he designed the limbs, all glory to God for giving the researchers at MIT their insight and intelligence, and be thankful for the grace and mercy of the Holy Spirit for accepting this abomination of God's plan for mankind.
Now it fits. |
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08/11/2011 07:35:42 AM · #40 |
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08/11/2011 09:06:52 AM · #41 |
| Yikes. Sorry I posted. :( |
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08/11/2011 09:09:32 AM · #42 |
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08/11/2011 09:58:39 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Yikes. Sorry I posted. :( |
Don't be sorry. There are people out there (like me) who appreciate reading good stories like this one and also the one that started the whole thread. |
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08/11/2011 10:03:10 AM · #44 |
Why can't people just be happy that the boy is recovering ?
I hope he continues to progress and recovery fully and have a wonderful life.
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08/11/2011 10:46:09 AM · #45 |
Against my better judgement, I am going to go ahead and say something anyway. If it displeases you, please take it to PM, if you wish to continue the debate, because I will not reply here.
As a person of faith, I do believe the hand of God was involved in this story. That does not lessen in any way the credit for the bravery and the skills of those who rescued the boy. Nor does it mean that the doctors should receive any less credit for the work they did. If two people come to your rescue, it means two people helped not one. It does not lessen the efforts of either one.
Some of you do not see the hand of a supreme being in this, or for that matter in anything else. Fair enough. That is what free will, and freedom of religion is all about. However, I do not hate people who do not see signs of a creator around them. I do not think about not helping people that do not believe. This is the part of the thread that has caused me to press the ignore button, and speak where I would not otherwise.
IF you do not believe, it does not make me any better than you. It only means we differ in our beliefs. Can we not agree to disagree? Can we not agree to respect each other as human beings? Can we not give others the same respect for their beliefs, as we ask for our own? |
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08/11/2011 11:11:42 AM · #46 |
| I do hope that the parents of the thousands of children who are starving to death in the famine in Africa, and who pray daily for the miracle of some bread, understand that God's ways are mysterious and unfathomable. |
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08/11/2011 12:01:08 PM · #47 |
Wow...what a powerful story and photo you posted, Jason. Personally, if I were the parent of that child, I wouldn't care if the elements that came together to save my child were formed solely by the rescuers, or in any combination of divine presence known to man, or aliens from Mars. I would thank them all with deep appreciation!
I love stories with a happy ending and I'm glad to read this story and the other ones posted in this thread.
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08/11/2011 12:05:03 PM · #48 |
I heard a promo for this story on NPR, but missed the actual story. Thanks for the link to remind me. I always thought this would be a fascinating career. To mesh technology with the artistic sensibility of mimicking the human form. |
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08/11/2011 12:17:01 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I heard a promo for this story on NPR, but missed the actual story. Thanks for the link to remind me. I always thought this would be a fascinating career. To mesh technology with the artistic sensibility of mimicking the human form. |
I enjoyed the practical application of technology used to improve quality of life. Elevating the sculpture of such form into art really is icing on the cake. |
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08/11/2011 12:24:11 PM · #50 |
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