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08/09/2011 08:36:22 PM · #76 |
Cut the liberal bullshit. The cops need to get control of these rats NOW! Screw plastic bullets....get the water cannons and clubs and start kicking some ass.
It this were to happen near my home or business and I feared losing life OR property, I would have all 7 of my semis loaded with all my Sports Academy ammo waiting for the whites of their eyes.
Social injustices my ass......I grew up with fucking NOTHING and ate potato sandwiches on a GOOD night and never burned down anyone house or business. Beat down the SCUM now....before it is too late.
Chew on that you bunch of MOFOS. |
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08/09/2011 08:36:31 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
These are race riots pure and simple under another guise. |
No they aren't. |
really? then what are they? |
Dude, have you seen the photos from the UK riots? Many are black, yes, probaly even a majority, but these are in no way race riots. There are many many white rioters involved as can be seen from the photos taken and interviews of those participating. |
so what started the riots? |
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08/09/2011 08:38:29 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
The usual socialist bullcrap. |
Well, of course some people see it as that. Other people see the 'shoot 'em and just lock 'em up and not think about why it happened' as bullshit as well. |
Well, the pity is that socialism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace the socialist ideology are completely blind to that. |
Again, i'd say many people would say that the corrupt form of late capitalism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace that ideology are completely blind to that. I guess it's been said before but perhaps the rioters haven't quite fucked up the country as much as the bankers have yet. |
Of course, I am sure it is those SOB bankers that are not giving enough of their money that are responsible, but don't forget to mention the big corporations, I mean those that manufacture goods like cars, appliances, medications, clothes, food, etc. They are to blame too. I say it is time that governments get serious about providing each one of their citizens with the basics of life like smart phones, flat screen tv's, i-pads, x-box's, etc. This thing about providing only shelter, food, education and free medical cares is total bullshit. |
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08/09/2011 08:41:38 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
These are race riots pure and simple under another guise. |
No they aren't. |
really? then what are they? |
Dude, have you seen the photos from the UK riots? Many are black, yes, probaly even a majority, but these are in no way race riots. There are many many white rioters involved as can be seen from the photos taken and interviews of those participating. |
so what started the riots? |
Well, thats what people are wondering and theorising about. But one thing is pretty certain, this isn't a race -black vs white race thing (although i imagine small pockets of that have occured) The areas where the riots are mostly poorer areas (with suprising exeptions such as Ealing which is pretty middle class) and do have large ethnic comunities but these are not so 'ghetto-ised' and race segregated as perhaps some areas in the US are.
Message edited by author 2011-08-09 20:42:54. |
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08/09/2011 08:44:55 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
These are race riots pure and simple under another guise. |
No they aren't. |
really? then what are they? |
Dude, have you seen the photos from the UK riots? Many are black, yes, probaly even a majority, but these are in no way race riots. There are many many white rioters involved as can be seen from the photos taken and interviews of those participating. |
so what started the riots? |
Well, thats what people are wondering and theorising about. But one thing is pretty certain, this isn't a race -black vs white race thing (although i imagine small pockets of that have occured) The areas where the riots are mostly poorer areas (with suprising exeptions such as Ealing which is pretty middle class) and do have large ethnic comunities but these are not so 'ghetto-ised' and race segregated as perhaps some areas in the US are. |
from what i hear its was blacks protesting a black man shot by police. |
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08/09/2011 08:45:01 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
The usual socialist bullcrap. |
Well, of course some people see it as that. Other people see the 'shoot 'em and just lock 'em up and not think about why it happened' as bullshit as well. |
Well, the pity is that socialism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace the socialist ideology are completely blind to that. |
Again, i'd say many people would say that the corrupt form of late capitalism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace that ideology are completely blind to that. I guess it's been said before but perhaps the rioters haven't quite fucked up the country as much as the bankers have yet. |
Of course, I am sure it is those SOB bankers that are not giving enough of their money that are responsible, but don't forget to mention the big corporations, I mean those that manufacture goods like cars, appliances, medications, clothes, food, etc. They are to blame too. I say it is time that governments get serious about providing each one of their citizens with the basics of life like smart phones, flat screen tv's, i-pads, x-box's, etc. This thing about providing only shelter, food, education and free medical cares is total bullshit. |
Sigh, ok. Have it your way. It's the Socialst Kingdom Of Britain that is to blame then. Happy now? Jeez |
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08/09/2011 08:48:03 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
The usual socialist bullcrap. |
Well, of course some people see it as that. Other people see the 'shoot 'em and just lock 'em up and not think about why it happened' as bullshit as well. |
Well, the pity is that socialism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace the socialist ideology are completely blind to that. |
Again, i'd say many people would say that the corrupt form of late capitalism is a great part of why this is happening in the first place, but those that embrace that ideology are completely blind to that. I guess it's been said before but perhaps the rioters haven't quite fucked up the country as much as the bankers have yet. |
Of course, I am sure it is those SOB bankers that are not giving enough of their money that are responsible, but don't forget to mention the big corporations, I mean those that manufacture goods like cars, appliances, medications, clothes, food, etc. They are to blame too. I say it is time that governments get serious about providing each one of their citizens with the basics of life like smart phones, flat screen tv's, i-pads, x-box's, etc. This thing about providing only shelter, food, education and free medical cares is total bullshit. |
Sigh, ok. Have it your way. It's the Socialst Kingdom Of Britain that is to blame then. Happy now? Jeez |
Not necessarily happy, I am just glad we agree. |
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08/09/2011 08:49:04 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
These are race riots pure and simple under another guise. |
No they aren't. |
really? then what are they? |
Dude, have you seen the photos from the UK riots? Many are black, yes, probaly even a majority, but these are in no way race riots. There are many many white rioters involved as can be seen from the photos taken and interviews of those participating. |
so what started the riots? |
Well, thats what people are wondering and theorising about. But one thing is pretty certain, this isn't a race -black vs white race thing (although i imagine small pockets of that have occured) The areas where the riots are mostly poorer areas (with suprising exeptions such as Ealing which is pretty middle class) and do have large ethnic comunities but these are not so 'ghetto-ised' and race segregated as perhaps some areas in the US are. |
from what i hear its was blacks protesting a black man shot by police. |
Well, it was the black family and friends (not all of which were black) protesting against a black man shot by police. Not the same thing really. That was what sparked the initial riots- as has been said idiots have taken it from there and those are black, white etc. Really, no-one in the UK sees this as 'race riots' unless they have a certain racial agenda they are trying to push. |
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08/09/2011 08:57:06 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
[quote=mike_311] [quote=clive_patric_nolan] [quote=mike_311] [quote=clive_patric_nolan] [quote=mike_311]These are race riots pure and simple under another guise. |
No they aren't. |
really? then what are they?
Really, no-one in the UK sees this as 'race riots' unless they have a certain racial agenda they are trying to push. |
maybe that's the problem, maybe we need to stop being afraid to call it what it is. its may not be a complete race riot now, now its just looting and vandalism, but race started it.
i dont know, i just see the same thing happening here in the states and its all racially motivated but the news is afraid to say it. everyone is afraid to say it, but we all know what it is.
i dont want to be racist, i dont have a racial agenda, i dont want to call this racial, that's dangerous because innocent upstanding citizens get lumped into a mess they aren't a part off. but when a group of people of a certain ethnicity start causing trouble with another group of people of a certain ethnicity, what do you call it?
Message edited by author 2011-08-09 20:57:55. |
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08/09/2011 09:09:12 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
but when a group of people of a certain ethnicity start causing trouble with another group of people of a certain ethnicity, what do you call it? |
Well, that's what i'm trying to tell you. That isn't really what is happening here. For the most part it isn't groups of a certain ethnicity causing trouble with another group of people of a certain ethnicity rather, for much of it, it is goups of mixed ethnicity, white and black mixed as friends, just kicking off and looting shops and torching cars and buildings. There is a large black presence as a lot of these people are from certain areas but there are a lot of white people involved who are from the same background. It's not a race vs race thing.
Message edited by author 2011-08-09 21:12:29. |
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08/09/2011 09:33:31 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
its may not be a complete race riot now, now its just looting and vandalism, but race started it.
i dont know, i just see the same thing happening here in the states and its all racially motivated but the news is afraid to say it. |
I think it's really more class-based, though economic class is often tied to race through historic discrimination. Once something sets it off, mob behavior often becomes completely irrational, so trying "explain" it can be rather fruitless. The same kind of thing has happened in the US, the following describes the riots in Los Angeles in the mid-60s -- probably more closely related to race than the current events since they occurred right in the middle of the Civil Rights movement.
In The Heat Of The Summer
by Phil Ochs
In the heat of the summer
When the pavements were burning
The soul of a city was ravaged in the night
After the city sun was sinkin'
Now no one knows how it started
Why the windows were shattered
But deep in the dark, someone set the spark
And then it no longer mattered
Down the streets they were rumbling
All the tempers were ragin'
Oh, where, oh, where are the white silver tongues
Who forgot to listen to the warnings?
On and on come the angry
No longer following reason
And all the stores were the target now
Where just the other day they were buyin'
Drunk with the memory of the ghetto
Drunk with the lure of the looting
And the memory of the uniforms shoving with their sticks
Asking, "Are you looking for trouble?"
"No, no, no," moaned the mayor.
"It's not the way of the order.
"Oh stay in your homes, please leave us alone
"We'll be glad to talk in the morning."
"For shame, for shame," wrote the papers.
"Why the hurry to your hunger?
"Now the rubble's resting on your broken streets
"So you see what your rage has unraveled."
Baricades sadly were risin'
Bricks were heavily flyin'
And the loudspeaker drowned like a whisperin' sound
When compared to the angered emotions
And when the fury was over
And the shame was replacing the anger.
So wrong, so wrong, but we've been down so long
And we had to make somebody listen
In the heat of the summer...... |
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08/09/2011 09:41:41 PM · #87 |
| in other news: it was a beautiful day to be outside in the UK. |
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08/09/2011 10:02:55 PM · #88 |
It's human nature at it's worst. Thats the sum of all this.
Message edited by author 2011-08-09 22:03:34. |
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08/09/2011 10:34:29 PM · #89 |
| Lols, the bullshit is deeper in here then the UK.... ROFL |
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08/10/2011 04:00:38 AM · #90 |
This is really getting out of hand...
Looter caught on film |
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08/10/2011 04:05:35 AM · #91 |
oh no!!! That's horrible! What next... |
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08/10/2011 05:21:35 AM · #92 |
Haha! First eyeball plucking now this! It's a lack of discipline i say! |
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08/10/2011 08:02:13 AM · #93 |
| London braced on Sunday for more violence after some of the worst riots in the British capital for years which politicians and police blamed on criminal thugs but residents attributed to local tensions and anger over hardship. |
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08/10/2011 08:04:33 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by spauno:
London braced on Sunday for more violence after some of the worst riots in the British capital for years which politicians and police blamed on criminal thugs but residents attributed to local tensions and anger over hardship. |
Not sure that we are waiting til Sunday to brace ourselves for more violence in British cities - intrigued as to where that came from!
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08/10/2011 08:05:36 AM · #95 |
The video on last evening's news about the riots was horrible. It appears that the majority of the thugs are quite young, thus it incenses me even further to see the disrespect they have for other human beings, for property and for authority! Looting every store on a block, but the book store??? That statement in and of itself is quite telling!!!!!
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08/10/2011 08:35:04 AM · #96 |
London, UK
Today in London the leader of the UK regime, David Cameron, ordered his security forces to deal harshly with protesters, authorizing the use of water cannon and baton rounds in an attempt to quell the demonstrations.
Young British civilians have been protesting at social injustice and human rights violations which have been simmering under the right-wing British government for a number of years. The protests were triggered when security forces shot dead a father-of-three on Friday night.
In response, the protestors have taken up position in a number of British cities. Small groups of opportunists have been seen looting buildings, but the protests have culminated in running battles on the streets, and a nightly curfew in force.
It remains to be seen how the uprising will affect Cameron's grip on power. |
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08/10/2011 08:55:52 AM · #97 |
A riot is the language of the unheard. mlk
Message edited by author 2011-08-10 08:57:04. |
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08/11/2011 06:02:03 PM · #98 |
feelgood donations, anyone?
//www.helpsiva.com/ |
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08/11/2011 06:05:34 PM · #99 |
Siva will be able to claim from the Government under the 1886 Riot act - Prime Minister David Cameron today comfirmed that both insured and uninsured will be able to claim from this - the funds to be taken from the treasury reserve - also he has increased the claim time from 14 days to 42 days..
So Siva should be OK.
To the oppositions annoyance, Cameron played a blinder in the House of Commons this morning.
1886 Riot Act
One final edit - as a taxpayer the fact we are paying these business owners does not bother me at all - I`d rather see my money go to getting these hard working people back on their feet than in benefits to the scum who caused these problems.. But yes, I understand that not all of these people are on benefits - for example a Teaching Assistant was in court today charged with looting - goodbye career and good riddance!
Message edited by author 2011-08-11 18:23:03. |
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08/11/2011 06:23:46 PM · #100 |
Thanks Simms - I had precious little confidence in Cameron, but good for him. I'm inclined to support the 'stop playing politics' line in situations like this anyway.
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