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 05/16/2011 04:58:00 PM · #1
Ok SO I'm 100% torn on what to do. I currently shoot a Nikon D90, loved it and it's been a great body. I'm just looking to move up to full frame. Now the million dollar question before making the financial leap go D700, or Canon 5d Mark II.

I've really enjoyed shooting Nikon. But I can come on this site and look at the challenges and immediately tell you what was shot on the 5d, and can also tell what is shot with an L series lens. It's just above and beyond.

Now I know it comes down to the photographer and PP, but i'm wondering how many D700 users with 'L series' quality Nikon Glass are on here entering challenge?

It's a big financial leap once you get the body and nice lenses... I'm just torn because I know pro write ups lean towards the Nikon but when i come on here the Canon seems to be winning...
 05/16/2011 04:59:50 PM · #2
Well, I'm sure a rental price won't add a whole bunch of extra cost to your expenditure (especially if you move to canon) so why not rent the two for a while? And see which you like?
05/16/2011 05:01:02 PM · #3
Originally posted by gwilton111:
Ok SO I'm 100% torn on what to do. I currently shoot a Nikon D90, loved it and it's been a great body. I'm just looking to move up to full frame. Now the million dollar question before making the financial leap go D700, or Canon 5d Mark II.

I've really enjoyed shooting Nikon. But I can come on this site and look at the challenges and immediately tell you what was shot on the 5d, and can also tell what is shot with an L series lens. It's just above and beyond.

Now I know it comes down to the photographer and PP, but i'm wondering how many D700 users with 'L series' quality Nikon Glass are on here entering challenge?

It's a big financial leap once you get the body and nice lenses... I'm just torn because I know pro write ups lean towards the Nikon but when i come on here the Canon seems to be winning...


I just moved back to Canon, not the 5d but the 7d. I think I know where you are going and wish you good luck:)
 05/16/2011 05:06:30 PM · #4
Honestly, I think that Nikon and Canon are really very competitive these days, with each having their own selling points. If high-ISO shooting is your bent, then I think Nikon actually has a narrow lead at this point. If you want FF with high resolution at a reasonable price, then without a doubt the 5D MkII is hard to beat.
With regard to glass, I used to say that typically, Canon L glass is less expensive than equivalent Nikon glass. I don't think that's as true as it used to be, perhaps not true at all in some cases. Canon glass prices have risen, and I don't know if equivalent Nikon glass prices have held the line or have risen also.
In the end, you'll need to look at:
- What your end uses are, and which body fits those uses better.
- What are the relative prices of the glass you'd want/need?
- What you have invested in Nikon, and how much you could get in a sale.
 05/16/2011 05:09:49 PM · #5
Originally posted by kirbic:
Honestly, I think that Nikon and Canon are really very competitive these days, with each having their own selling points. If high-ISO shooting is your bent, then I think Nikon actually has a narrow lead at this point. If you want FF with high resolution at a reasonable price, then without a doubt the 5D MkII is hard to beat.
With regard to glass, I used to say that typically, Canon L glass is less expensive than equivalent Nikon glass. I don't think that's as true as it used to be, perhaps not true at all in some cases. Canon glass prices have risen, and I don't know if equivalent Nikon glass prices have held the line or have risen also.
In the end, you'll need to look at:
- What your end uses are, and which body fits those uses better.
- What are the relative prices of the glass you'd want/need?
- What you have invested in Nikon, and how much you could get in a sale.


Here in the UK prices are good. I used eBay to unload the Nikon gear and bought all Canon gear from one store, WarehouseExpress.com, in the end it cost me just £500 for the whole shift. I am well pleased with the deals. Buying gear from Japan is bad at the mo, lots of backorders. Thats why you can get good prices selling:))
 05/16/2011 05:59:23 PM · #6
Originally posted by kirbic:
Honestly, I think that Nikon and Canon are really very competitive these days, with each having their own selling points. If high-ISO shooting is your bent, then I think Nikon actually has a narrow lead at this point. If you want FF with high resolution at a reasonable price, then without a doubt the 5D MkII is hard to beat.
With regard to glass, I used to say that typically, Canon L glass is less expensive than equivalent Nikon glass. I don't think that's as true as it used to be, perhaps not true at all in some cases. Canon glass prices have risen, and I don't know if equivalent Nikon glass prices have held the line or have risen also.
In the end, you'll need to look at:
- What your end uses are, and which body fits those uses better.
- What are the relative prices of the glass you'd want/need?
- What you have invested in Nikon, and how much you could get in a sale.


I think most if not all Canon and Nikon glass has risen to at least the MSRP since the Japan quake and tsunami due to supply and demand. I would really advise people who can wait it out a bit to hold off on making big lens purchases until the plants in Japan are back on their feet production wise. Then I'm sure we will see prices return to or close to pre-tsunami prices. The difference is so substantial in savings that it could be the difference of getting 3 quality lenses for the current price of 2.

Of course that's easier said then done. When people make up their minds that they want something it's hard to put that purchase off. LOL.

Dave
 05/16/2011 07:21:08 PM · #7
me, i love the discount stuff. lots of bargains to be had from all you folks upgrading to L glass.
 05/16/2011 07:23:34 PM · #8
The good news is, if you have the chops it probably doesn't matter if you use Canon or Nikon. There are some differences, but they are minor and specialized. The bad news is...
 05/19/2011 09:33:50 AM · #9
3 of the 5 lenses posted on your profile page are Dx lenses. Therefore you will likely be buying FF glass regardless if you stay Nikon or switch to Canon.

For me the decision would be simple as I have no Dx glass. For you it really doesn't matter - except if you really like the photos taken with the 5D and L glass, you won't ever be happy until that is what you have.
 05/19/2011 10:06:21 AM · #10
Originally posted by gwilton111:
But I can come on this site and look at the challenges and immediately tell you what was shot on the 5d, and can also tell what is shot with an L series lens. It's just above and beyond.


A bit of hyperbole, but I understand your desire.
05/19/2011 10:15:36 AM · #11
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Originally posted by gwilton111:
But I can come on this site and look at the challenges and immediately tell you what was shot on the 5d, and can also tell what is shot with an L series lens. It's just above and beyond.


A bit of hyperbole, but I understand your desire.

I think that is more to do with people who are prepared to spend that sort of $$ have put effort into learning and practicing (generally - not all cases).... You would find the same thing with someone with a full set of fast FX lenses. In the past Canon has had an advantage in the f4 zooms and still do in the prime like that 135f2 but otherwise a wash (maybe they have a fast 135 now... not sure).

Grass is always greener... I shoot with friends that have a Nikon and I am jealous of the ease of the CLS flash system compared to Canon... especially the fact they can run 2nd curtain on cheapo flashes because that is very handy at times. Most of the time that is irrelevant. Yet a few years ago Nikon was pretending you didn't need a "full frame"... cause they didn't have one... I see that they have changed their minds recently :-)
 05/19/2011 10:24:41 AM · #12
I'm sure you know which one you want, just go for it or you'll probably regret. As somebody said, the DX glass you have is not a consideration. Another option would be to wait, they will both be replaced before long.
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