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05/13/2011 10:10:40 PM · #1 |
| I'm struck by the relatively high number of challenges in which ribbon winners are DQed after validation. Clearly a lot of these DQs are honest mistakes, so I'm not suggesting folks are intentionally cheating. However, it does pose the question of just how many entries in each challenge are actually DQ-able. I'm an honest guy, but I wonder whether I might have inadvertently committed a DQ-able offence or two in some of my early entries, just thru my, then, relative ignorance of the rules. So, would anyone like to hazard a guess about what % of entries would be DQed in a basic editing challenge if all entries were validated? |
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05/13/2011 10:15:06 PM · #2 |
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05/13/2011 10:22:08 PM · #3 |
| Probably not that many... less than 5%. I suspect there are a disproportionate number of DQ's in the top 10 since those tend to be more "cutting edge" with riskier editing techniques or cool shots taken outside the challenge dates. The middle and lower end scores are frequently (and not coincidentally) unremarkable in their editing and effort, and therefore less likely to have an issue. Most of the few illegal entries that do slip through are probably accidental errors like an incorrect camera date or misplaced original. |
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05/13/2011 10:43:50 PM · #4 |
I don't know, I think there is probably more than that...mainly on not being able to supply an original.
I am pretty sure that my first 10 entries could have been dq-ed because I shot in jpeg and uploaded them through Iphoto, which alters the original. I simply didn't know any better. I did not realize that what I thought was the original, wasn't.
I am guessing that happens quite a bit. |
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05/13/2011 10:57:42 PM · #5 |
| One of my "goals" on this site is to finish high enough for my image to require validation. :-) |
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05/13/2011 11:00:55 PM · #6 |
| I'd say more than a few in each challenge may clone out a "major element".... no proof but it is easy to do and if done right, one can clone out a ball on the floor of a living room. |
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05/13/2011 11:07:23 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
I'd say more than a few in each challenge may clone out a "major element".... no proof but it is easy to do and if done right, one can clone out a ball on the floor of a living room. |
That's my guess too. I have a feeling that many of us these days have become accustomed to cloning out 'imperfections' and so do so without even thinking. Also, given the number of top 3 entries that are DQed, there surely must be just as many again within the top 10? I'd like to think the numbers aren't too high, but <5% seems a rather conservative estimate IMO. |
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05/13/2011 11:08:44 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Fiora:
I am pretty sure that my first 10 entries could have been dq-ed because I shot in jpeg and uploaded them through Iphoto, which alters the original. |
iPhoto does not alter originals- it preserves them. Nearly all of my photos were transferred with iPhoto, and you have to go out of your way to lose an original with that software. |
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05/19/2011 11:07:55 AM · #9 |
if you only shoot in raw and transfer with iphoto does this alter the originals? i thought it does... i know jpg files aren't altered when transferring though.
i know this doesn't have anything to do with transferring with iphoto but one other thing, if you're viewing the shot in iphoto and do something like rotate the image to see how it would look and then rotate back to how it was, that will permanently alter the original. i almost had one of shots dq'd because i didnt realize this.
Message edited by author 2011-05-19 11:15:23. |
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05/19/2011 11:12:19 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Cuttooth:
if you only shoot in raw and transfer with iphoto then they are no longer originals...jpg files aren't altered though. |
This is exactly backwards :) RAW (CR2/NEF/etc) are ALWAYS valid originals, since they aren't (easily) modifiable). JPEGs on the other hand are easy altered, and we have the most problems with them.
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05/19/2011 11:19:03 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Manic:
Originally posted by Cuttooth:
if you only shoot in raw and transfer with iphoto then they are no longer originals...jpg files aren't altered though. |
This is exactly backwards :) RAW (CR2/NEF/etc) are ALWAYS valid originals, since they aren't (easily) modifiable). JPEGs on the other hand are easy altered, and we have the most problems with them. |
ahhh..i edited my original post after wondering if my statement was correct or not. i forget where i read that iphoto alters original raw files if you use it to transfer to the computer. |
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