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04/29/2011 02:01:08 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it. |
Agreed, but I dont like it :)
One would think that they would stop and think, hey lower the price of gas, more people will do more trips (probably spending more on gas in the long run), it would fuel the tourism of the places those people drive through and go to. Which would mean those places would use more gas to drive around to buy the items to sell. At least thats how I think it would go, guess they ran some numbers and figured get us where they can (at the pumps), but tourism and travel is at one of the lowest points its been in a long time (which is another reason I really dont think this is a government control thing, losing more then they would be gaining). |
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04/29/2011 02:01:45 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it. |
I resent that my little business barely broke even last year and pays close to 28% of my gross income in various taxes and fees, while General Electric generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion. How come they are so much more entitled to their profits than I am to mine? In fact it seems they are entitled to some small percentage of my profits.
Message edited by author 2011-04-29 02:13:25. |
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04/29/2011 02:15:59 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it. |
I resent that my little business barely broke even last year and pays close to 28% of my gross income in various taxes and fees, while General Electric generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion. How come they are so much more entitled to their profits than I am to mine? In fact it seems they are entitled to some small percentage of my profits. |
OH, I'm so glad you posted this as I was about to point the GE thing out. Makes me crazy! |
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04/29/2011 02:54:29 AM · #54 |
OK, if I understand correctly, it appears the document reacts the same as ANY would when opened with one of these word recognition programs, ie: there are "layers" that can be separated and moved around.
I think that pretty much answers my question, other than, do the letters and numbers change "styles" throughout the doc. and if so, why would that happen.
Anyway, I just hope better people are elected and we can remove some of the corruption that is ruining our country.
Oil company profits are minuscule compared to the federal and state's take.
I don't understand the GE thing either.
Message edited by author 2011-04-29 03:00:48. |
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04/29/2011 02:57:23 AM · #55 |
I don't believe some of the guys here, you have the greatest country on the planet and yet that's what you have time for!?
You revolt on the British and come on top, abolish servitude, unite your country, give women voting right, win wars for the freedom of the world, submit to civil rights, land on the Moon and bring the internet to the world! All of this, and some of your arguments do not rise to the shoe bottoms of your forefathers and the real reasons they escaped to the new world for.
I lived, studied and made friends in America and I know that reason will eventually triumph and that history will shame those who argue subjectively rather than objectively, claiming "birth" when the really want to say "race".
In his analysis, the "expert" felt complied for some reason to say "I live in Georgia"; where he could have only cited a time zone if at all needed. Why say "Georgia"; President Carter is from Georgia next to few other millions good folks who see humanity with a clearer sights than the one that only sees cotton fields.
I am not amused with this debate at all; with such mentality of some, America will loose her lead.
Message edited by author 2011-04-29 03:42:06. |
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04/29/2011 03:39:25 AM · #56 |
If you are making all the issues ABOUT RACE...Does that mean you are more likely to be the RACIST?
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04/29/2011 04:27:58 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it. |
I resent that my little business barely broke even last year and pays close to 28% of my gross income in various taxes and fees, while General Electric generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but ended up owing nothing to Uncle Sam. In fact, it recorded a tax benefit of $1.1 billion. How come they are so much more entitled to their profits than I am to mine? In fact it seems they are entitled to some small percentage of my profits. |
You don't have an army of accountants, lawyers and lobbyists to help shape the tax code to your benefit. GE does. |
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04/29/2011 04:30:33 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by HighNooner:
I don't believe some of the guys here, you have the greatest country on the planet and yet that's what you have time for!?
You revolt on the British and come on top, abolish servitude, unite your country, give women voting right, win wars for the freedom of the world, submit to civil rights, land on the Moon and bring the internet to the world! All of this, and some of your arguments do not rise to the shoe bottoms of your forefathers and the real reasons they escaped to the new world for.
I lived, studied and made friends in America and I know that reason will eventually triumph and that history will shame those who argue subjectively rather than objectively, claiming "birth" when the really want to say "race".
In his analysis, the "expert" felt complied for some reason to say "I live in Georgia"; where he could have only cited a time zone if at all needed. Why say "Georgia"; President Carter is from Georgia next to few other millions good folks who see humanity with a clearer sights than the one that only sees cotton fields.
I am not amused with this debate at all; with such mentality of some, America will loose her lead. |
The US will only be the "greatest" for a few more years. Enjoy it while it lasts. Soon, it will be China. I expect they will be a lot more heavy-handed than the US when it comes to exerting their influence. |
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04/29/2011 04:33:16 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Just a few random shots.
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it.
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When the corporations have an excess of influence in writing the laws that govern their behavior and the tax codes that tax their incomes, that's a problem. |
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04/29/2011 04:49:26 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by HighNooner:
I don't believe some of the guys here, you have the greatest country on the planet and yet that's what you have time for!?
You revolt on the British and come on top, abolish servitude, unite your country, give women voting right, win wars for the freedom of the world, submit to civil rights, land on the Moon and bring the internet to the world! All of this, and some of your arguments do not rise to the shoe bottoms of your forefathers and the real reasons they escaped to the new world for.
I lived, studied and made friends in America and I know that reason will eventually triumph and that history will shame those who argue subjectively rather than objectively, claiming "birth" when the really want to say "race".
In his analysis, the "expert" felt complied for some reason to say "I live in Georgia"; where he could have only cited a time zone if at all needed. Why say "Georgia"; President Carter is from Georgia next to few other millions good folks who see humanity with a clearer sights than the one that only sees cotton fields.
I am not amused with this debate at all; with such mentality of some, America will loose her lead. |
The US will only be the "greatest" for a few more years. Enjoy it while it lasts. Soon, it will be China. I expect they will be a lot more heavy-handed than the US when it comes to exerting their influence. |
Whether it'll be the Chinese Dragon or the Indian Elephant, certainly any will be less considerate..
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04/29/2011 07:23:06 AM · #61 |
Right!
Message edited by author 2011-04-29 07:23:20. |
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04/29/2011 07:34:29 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by Judith Polakoff:
Right! |
That's classic! ROFLMAO! Gotta love The Onion! |
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04/29/2011 07:35:17 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I thought the Republicans were all about cutting spending. WTF? |
With respect to social programs, yes. When it comes to their benefactors, not so much. |
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04/29/2011 07:49:35 AM · #64 |
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04/29/2011 09:56:33 AM · #65 |
Originally posted by HighNooner:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by HighNooner:
I don't believe some of the guys here, you have the greatest country on the planet and yet that's what you have time for!?
You revolt on the British and come on top, abolish servitude, unite your country, give women voting right, win wars for the freedom of the world, submit to civil rights, land on the Moon and bring the internet to the world! All of this, and some of your arguments do not rise to the shoe bottoms of your forefathers and the real reasons they escaped to the new world for.
I lived, studied and made friends in America and I know that reason will eventually triumph and that history will shame those who argue subjectively rather than objectively, claiming "birth" when the really want to say "race".
In his analysis, the "expert" felt complied for some reason to say "I live in Georgia"; where he could have only cited a time zone if at all needed. Why say "Georgia"; President Carter is from Georgia next to few other millions good folks who see humanity with a clearer sights than the one that only sees cotton fields.
I am not amused with this debate at all; with such mentality of some, America will loose her lead. |
The US will only be the "greatest" for a few more years. Enjoy it while it lasts. Soon, it will be China. I expect they will be a lot more heavy-handed than the US when it comes to exerting their influence. |
Whether it'll be the Chinese Dragon or the Indian Elephant, certainly any will be less considerate.. |
According to the IMF, it will be China by 2016 |
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04/29/2011 10:28:58 AM · #66 |
US companies pay out the ass to do business in other countries. For example, Exxon tax rate in Nigeria is 85%. In the US, Exxon pays little or no income tax but paid out almost 8 billion in tax to the U.S. government via sales and other taxes. (the 8 billion is paid to the US in taxes FROM exxon, not sales taxes from the public. As shown below, fed, state and local governments charge YOU and ME additional tax)
Check this page out also. You will see that fed, state and local taxes on Exxon products far outweigh what Exxon profits from a gallon of gas.
When all numbers are crunched, Exxon profits a state average of 7 cents for each gallon you purchase. That means for every gallon you put in your car, you are giving Exxon 7 cents PROFIT....to bank away or to use for future exploration etc.
Notice that for every gallon you put into your car, you pay the U.S., your state and your city up to 48 cents (depending on the state you live in).
Now some may feel 7 cents is too much for Exxon, if so, is 48 cents too much?
On to other things...Obama is correct, if we can get alturnative fuel into the mainstream...Wind tubines, Nuclear, Ocean tides, solar, then the price of gasoline will plumit. The reason it will plumit is because we won't need it and there will be too much of it.
The same is true if the world (US included) pulled billions of more gallons out of the ground.
Now by alturnitive fuel, I don't mean electric cars. Unless the electricity used to charge those cars is generated entirely by wind, solar, nuclear, tidal, etc...then we are still using oil, natural gas and coal to fuel the cars. Some say yes...but at least the cars won't pollute as much. That is true, but although the car is not polluting, if a coal fired plant is producing more electricity to power the cars, then in turn IT is polluting more.
On a final note, I'm pretty confident that any company that comes up with a way to end our dependence on oil, the reward for them will be PROFIT....and I'm sure when that time comes, we'll all be discussing how big their profits are ! Oh...and to add...the US is currently subsidising alturnative fuel companies out the wazzo.
Please excuse any typos.
Message edited by author 2011-04-29 10:53:06. |
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04/29/2011 10:38:16 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Now some may feel 7 cents is too much for Exxon, if so, is 48 cents too much? |
Taking your figures at face value.... Answers are Yes and HELL YES! |
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04/29/2011 10:57:34 AM · #68 |
Face Value is what is reported to the US and to Exxon shareholders. So if what is reported is not true, then it is up to Obama through Eric Holder to prove and procecute...something some say Bush wouldn't do because he was "in" with the oil industry. So with Bush gone, shouldn't Obama move forward ?
Originally posted by robs:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Now some may feel 7 cents is too much for Exxon, if so, is 48 cents too much? |
Taking your figures at face value.... Answers are Yes and HELL YES! |
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04/29/2011 11:12:14 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Just a few random shots.
2) Capitalism does tell us that a company has the right to any profits it can make. We can't exclude some because we don't like it.
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When the corporations have an excess of influence in writing the laws that govern their behavior and the tax codes that tax their incomes, that's a problem. |
i agree, we need to get rid of lobby, but yeah, like that will ever happen. |
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04/29/2011 12:18:59 PM · #70 |
| I haven't heard the conspiracy answer to how you fake a birth announcement in a 1960s newspaper. What's the birther's position on that? |
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04/29/2011 12:39:47 PM · #71 |
I remember when I went to get my first driver's license. I didn't have my original birth certificate. I lived 40 miles from my birth place...New Orleans. I called city hall and they told me what I had to bring to get a certified print of my birth certificate. The charge was about $30 if I remember correctly. I didn't have the $30 or a ride to N.O. (I needed to get a drivers license for my first job). So I was stuck....I couldn't get a birth certificate and hence no license.....but...
....I simply went to the library (about 1/2 mile away) and looked at their old microfiche newspapers of the New Orleans Times Picayune. I found my birth announcement ! I printed that out, got my uncle to drive me to New Orleans City Hall...went to the window with the birth announcement and guess what happened?
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I haven't heard the conspiracy answer to how you fake a birth announcement in a 1960s newspaper. What's the birther's position on that? |
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04/29/2011 12:40:30 PM · #72 |
| wait, we are still talking about this. really? |
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04/29/2011 12:43:02 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I haven't heard the conspiracy answer to how you fake a birth announcement in a 1960s newspaper. What's the birther's position on that? |
Time Travel, of course :D |
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04/29/2011 12:45:07 PM · #74 |
| Now there is even "controversy" over birther-jokes in the news. Sigh. |
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04/29/2011 12:45:51 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by ScooterMcNutty:
wait, we are still talking about this. really? |
I think that, mostly, we are making fun of it. :-) |
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