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07/13/2002 10:50:59 PM · #1 |
The rules talk about the things we can do with software to photos after we take them. Are we allowed to use all of the functions in the cameras? Mine has B&W, solarization, and a couple of other effects built in. Are they legal since they're part of the camera?
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07/13/2002 10:53:18 PM · #2 |
Also, Photoshop has a 3D command. Is it legal? I think it is not a ''spot'' edit and works on the entire image, same as levels.
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/13/2002 11:19:41 PM. |
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07/13/2002 11:11:10 PM · #3 |
Photoshop is the "darkroom", not the camera. That doesn't mean I know the whole answer, but there have been plenty of B&W submissions even out of the B&W challenge.....
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07/14/2002 12:47:40 AM · #4 |
I HIGHLY doubt 3d transform is legal... Its like saying the ruber stamp is a legal tool...
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07/14/2002 12:54:25 AM · #5 |
You are allowed to use any function of your camera.
Can someone familiar with the 3D command provide me with an explanation of what it does and perhaps an example?
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07/14/2002 01:30:31 AM · #6 |
Drew,
The 3D transform command allows to "wrap" your image (or some section of it) around a three-dimensional figure (i.e. a cube, a sphere, a cylinder, etc.).
Here's a sample 3d transform of my last submission for the transparency challenge:
Of course, perhaps the original comment was in reference to some other 3d tool in Photoshop? 3d Transform was the only such tool I found, but I may be missing something. |
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07/14/2002 03:22:50 AM · #7 |
I think that the spirit of the rules is to get as much out of the camera without a lot of additional post-processing. The rules allow level adjustment, color correction, sharpening, and cropping because these are normal darkroom processes for virtually any camera. I suppose then that the challenge is far more about what comes out of the camera than one's darkroom skills.
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07/14/2002 03:48:24 AM · #8 |
Gene,
I think you hit the nail on the head. It's all about the spirit of the rules no matter how you look at it. There have been minor flaws in each of my submissions that I could have quite easily edited out -- and done so, I believe, in such a way that nobody would have ever known they were there. (For example, I personally really dislike the huge long scratch you can see in the road in Pyxis Anesidorae and may or may not clone it out in future versions.)
In fact, I've heard it said that you can create ANYTHING in Photoshop if you have the skill and time -- including creating a "photograph" from scratch on a blank canvas using nothing more than the tools Photoshop gives you. Having seen the work that the artists in my company create with Photoshop, I don't need any more convincing of the veracity of that statement.
Ultimately, if someone really wanted to cheat, they could. And they could do it in such a way that even the most Nazi enforcer of the editing rules would never be able to catch them.
This site, as has been said many times in the past, is about the photographs you can make with your camera -- not the artwork you can create in your computer. If you're tweaking around the image too much, it's not about the photograph anymore, it's about your skill with the editing program. If you want to show off those skills, great. There are ways you can STILL do that on THIS site -- I've been having a lot of fun doing so -- if you want more information, ask Drew about it. Or you can go to a number of other sites that highlight Photoshop talent instead of photographic skill.
These rules are here to limit some of us. It's the same as a golf handicap. They're meant to level the playing field a little bit by giving everybody the same basic chance at success. Do I think some of my images could have been better if I'd been allowed to use various filters, or tweaked a portion of this image or sharpened just that aspect of another? Yes. I've done so already with some of my stuff. But who cares. I like the new, but I was happy with the old as well. Different "images" for different purposes.
In terms of the original thread, if you're concerned that what your camera can do is too far outside the rules as established, then you might want to think twice about using that function. At the very least, jot off a quick note to an admin or (if they still have the "title") a moderator. Easiest way to make sure we're all on the same page.
Ahhhhh, how I ramble on when it's almost 2 in the morning....
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