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04/10/2011 10:42:44 AM · #76			 | 
		
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04/10/2011 01:01:08 PM · #77			 | 
		
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04/10/2011 01:20:35 PM · #78			 | 
		
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04/10/2011 02:16:47 PM · #79			 | 
		
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04/10/2011 08:18:33 PM · #80			 | 
		
		I just installed SEP2 and been experimenting:
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04/11/2011 09:01:36 AM · #81			 | 
		
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04/11/2011 10:29:54 AM · #82			 | 
		
		 
 
 Okay I need some feedback to see why this ended up with a below average score on B&W. I have to say I was a bit surprised by the score. I wasn't expecting a really high score on this image, but I did think it would get closer to a mid to high 5. A low 5 to me says this isn't any better than a snapshot, I just don't see it, so I need help. |  
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04/11/2011 10:35:06 AM · #83			 | 
		
		Originally posted by sjhuls:    
 
 Okay I need some feedback to see why this ended up with a below average score on B&W. I have to say I was a bit surprised by the score. I wasn't expecting a really high score on this image, but I did think it would get closer to a mid to high 5. A low 5 to me says this isn't any better than a snapshot, I just don't see it, so I need help.  |   
 
 When you get down in that range (mind-5's) scores cease to have meaning. After all, 5.4+ IS a "mid-5" score, you can't make a meaningful distinction between that and 5.5+... What it all comes down to, in that range, is individual preference. Your score is telling you people didn't particularly relate to a decently-crafted image of cows grazing a messy field.
 
 You mentioned "snapshot" above; that's exactly what this appears to be; a well-processed snapshot. You might try coming at it from a different direction, and tell us what, in your mind, elevates the image above "snapshot", besides the processing.
 
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04/11/2011 12:54:15 PM · #84			 | 
		
		 
 
 Another overlay of SEP2 in luminance mode. |  
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04/11/2011 01:42:52 PM · #85			 | 
		
		| I have to tell you also that I think pre-processed borders like those available in SEP are a kind of turn off for some voters.  They make the image appear contrived. |  
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04/11/2011 02:15:30 PM · #86			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Louis:   I have to tell you also that I think pre-processed borders like those available in SEP are a kind of turn off for some voters.  They make the image appear contrived.  |   
 
 Well, I'll debate that with you. You know what appears "contrived" to me? I'll tell you: images that have clean, rectangular edges, all neat and tidy. Life's not like that. Back in the film days I always loved the images that were printed with the film borders showing, and I'm having a great time working with these new ragged borders, which are fully customizable in SEP2. 
 
 They're not really pre-processed; you pick from what amounts to a style gallery, then sort of spin the wheel, and keep spinning until one that works for your image shows up; then you can adjust the smoothness/roughness, the overlap, and the width to precisely what you want them to be. So there's a lot of artist input available, if you care to exercise it.
 
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04/11/2011 02:18:14 PM · #87			 | 
		
		| Life may not be like that, but a real-world print on a piece of paper sure is. ;-) |  
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04/11/2011 02:30:22 PM · #88			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Louis:   Life may not be like that, but a real-world print on a piece of paper sure is. ;-)  |   
 
 Not if you print them with borders like this :-)
 
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04/13/2011 03:56:12 AM · #89			 | 
		
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04/13/2011 04:25:04 AM · #90			 | 
		
		A similar one to my B&W challenge entry:
  
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04/13/2011 10:58:40 AM · #91			 | 
		
		 
 
 Another case of using SEP2 as a luminance overlay. |  
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04/13/2011 01:22:02 PM · #92			 | 
		
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04/13/2011 01:24:07 PM · #93			 | 
		
		Originally posted by sjhuls:    Okay I need some feedback to see why this ended up with a below average score on B&W. I have to say I was a bit surprised by the score. I wasn't expecting a really high score on this image, but I did think it would get closer to a mid to high 5. A low 5 to me says this isn't any better than a snapshot, I just don't see it, so I need help.  |   
 
 Left you a comment on the image itself. :)
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04/13/2011 04:11:20 PM · #94			 | 
		
		 
 
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04/13/2011 05:19:29 PM · #95			 | 
		
		I hope you don't mind if I intrude...
 
 I was at the beach in Rhode Island today.  This is how it felt to me out there.
  
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04/14/2011 01:54:08 AM · #96			 | 
		
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04/14/2011 07:09:32 AM · #97			 | 
		
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04/14/2011 09:17:50 AM · #98			 | 
		
		  Just thought I'd break up the beach scene. >^^< |  
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04/14/2011 11:54:36 AM · #99			 | 
		
		I needed a texture shot for my local camera club meet up and I just loved   glodashot  |  
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04/14/2011 11:55:37 AM · #100			 | 
		
		I needed a texture shot for my local camera club meet up and I just loved   gloda shot like this
  
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