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03/09/2011 11:43:55 AM · #1
Hey everyone!
I'm new to the forum, and just learning about light. I took this picture of my daughter a couple of days ago using nothing but my camera and window light. Could you critique it for me and perhaps offer some advice on what I could do next time to make a more pleasing photograph? And could you tell me how to post my images on here too?
Thanks in advance!
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03/09/2011 11:46:51 AM · #2
Here's how to post a clickable thumbnail (Just use the image ID#, rather than the full URL):


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03/09/2011 11:52:38 AM · #3
The light makes this look more like it was intended to be a creepy looking movie poster. I would have thought it was lit with a closely placed flashlight and not window light. This light seems rather harsh and highly directional. Perhaps some curtains or a sheet to diffuse the light a bit could have helped. The eye is nice and sharp with plenty of detail. I think this shot can be either good or bad, depending on what you were desiring to achieve with it.
03/09/2011 11:55:29 AM · #4
This photo has some really great things going for it. Really great focus on the eye. I think the crop is a bit tight for me (I would like to see what this little cutie looks like) and the lighting is a bit harsh (blown out) between the eye and the ear.

I forgot to add what I would do differently. Because its a child strong directional light probablly isn't the best. I would go for more even light, you need a second light source for the other side. I like yo_spiffs suggestion of toning down the window light with some fabric. But if you have the other side lit better you might not need it, because you can adjust your camera settings down a bit without the dark side getting too dark.

Message edited by author 2011-03-09 11:59:50.
03/09/2011 03:58:43 PM · #5
Thanks for your replies! I'm not really sure where I was going with it - I was just playing around with the light trying to learn. So, would a reflector have helped or would I have needed a stronger light than that ie. the flashlight? If I used a reflector which color would I use (gold, white, silver...)?? I'm so lost when it comes to this stuff.
I can totally see the creepy movie poster. Like Children of the Corn or something lol!
Thanks for your help with posting pictures.
I really do appreciate your feedback. After all, how can someone learn when everyone just sugar coats everything.
This is what she looks like by the way.


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03/09/2011 04:14:12 PM · #6
A reflector is a great investment and very versatile. As far as what side to use it all depends on the look you want. The white is more natural and soft but doesn't throw a lot of light. The silver throws more light and it is a bit more contrasty and the gold I never use but would be good outside in the early morning or late evening to give a nice warm light. Did you take that other photo as well? That is very nice all around. I may have gone with a different crop but the bokeh and sharpness is excellent.
03/09/2011 04:31:27 PM · #7
I did, and thank you! I'm still learning everything (including crops and composition) so I'm up for any kind of feedback. I heard about something called the rule of thirds so I was trying to place her on the "line" if you know what I mean. Am I misunderstanding the rule of thirds?
03/09/2011 05:22:37 PM · #8
Originally posted by Shanny403:

I did, and thank you! I'm still learning everything (including crops and composition) so I'm up for any kind of feedback. I heard about something called the rule of thirds so I was trying to place her on the "line" if you know what I mean. Am I misunderstanding the rule of thirds?


I think you may have cropped a bit too much off the bottom and left too much on the top. Also you could leave less negative space on the right side and still be in the rule of thirds. I've also found with portraits the rule of thirds doesn't always work the best sometimes they just need to be centered to look the best. Otherwise a really great photo.
03/09/2011 06:32:33 PM · #9
As far as the lighting goes, I like it as is. Why? Because it doesn't look like every other baby picture I've ever seen. And I think it works as a baby picture, too, in that the curves of her lips and nose are carved out beautifully. Her eye is nicely illuminated. And the crop and the angle of her face are refreshingly novel, I think. Very good.

I can't quite bring myself to calling it creepy (she's too cute), but I can see where the close framing and very direct lighting might evoke that response. If not creepy, it certainly has drama, intrigue. In any case, it's as revealing as the best portraits.

But take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm in a weird minority as far as my tastes in and beliefs about photography, and I don't do a lot of portraits. I know what I like, and I do like what you've done. But it's you who has to like it.

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03/09/2011 09:16:04 PM · #10
Originally posted by bvy:

As far as the lighting goes, I like it as is. Why? Because it doesn't look like every other baby picture I've ever seen. And I think it works as a baby picture, too, in that the curves of her lips and nose are carved out beautifully. Her eye is nicely illuminated. And the crop and the angle of her face are refreshingly novel, I think. Very good.

I can't quite bring myself to calling it creepy (she's too cute), but I can see where the close framing and very direct lighting might evoke that response. If not creepy, it certainly has drama, intrigue. In any case, it's as revealing as the best portraits.

But take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm in a weird minority as far as my tastes in and beliefs about photography, and I don't do a lot of portraits. I know what I like, and I do like what you've done. But it's you who has to like it.


I agree. It's different, but different in a good way. I like the drama of the light, it adds and intensity to the look and the photo as a whole. But, fundamentally, it serves a different niche than other approaches. From a photographic standpoint, I very much like the photo, I think it's excellent. However, it doesn't fit into the niche of portraiture to me, which generally consists of the types of photos bvy notes with even soft light and laughing babies. To me, there are portraits for the sake of portraiture, and there are portraits for the sake of photography, and they are different because the audience is totally different.

Also, remember that every rule in photography is meant to be broken (seriously). The key is breaking them at the correct times and in a fitting fashion.
03/09/2011 10:46:59 PM · #11
Thank you so much Bvy and spiritualspatula. I am striving with my photography to create an outlet for my creative energy and a style that uniquely defines it as mine (I hope that makes sense). I know I'm not there yet as I still have a lot to learn (I've only been taking photography seriously since September) but I am really excited and dare I say a little obsessed with it.
Thank you for the comment about the "rules". It has made me realize that I have been trying to take photographs that fit into the ideals of what makes a great photograph instead of following my instincts and doing what feels right. I couldn't have asked for a better bit of advice.
03/14/2011 03:53:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by Shanny403:

Thank you so much Bvy and spiritualspatula. I am striving with my photography to create an outlet for my creative energy and a style that uniquely defines it as mine (I hope that makes sense). I know I'm not there yet as I still have a lot to learn (I've only been taking photography seriously since September) but I am really excited and dare I say a little obsessed with it.
Thank you for the comment about the "rules". It has made me realize that I have been trying to take photographs that fit into the ideals of what makes a great photograph instead of following my instincts and doing what feels right. I couldn't have asked for a better bit of advice.


I had meant to respond to this earlier, but I've been busy and absent-minded as a result.
It should be noted that "great" photos are great for a reason, and it isn't just by happenstance. My comment about breaking rules should not be taken without the assumption that there is value and need to grasp the rules and why they exist in the first place. There is something to be said in serendipitously breaking rules, but there is also much to be said in knowing and respecting what has been done and why. Going beyond existing boundaries means knowing where they are and how to push. And just as much as it is empty to follow rules for the sake of following them, it is equally empty to break rules to break rules. Either way, you are accepting or rejecting a zeitgeist without justification, and radicalism becomes reactionary.
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