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02/07/2011 12:23:29 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
There was this guy who once did a still life painting of a vase with twelve sunflowers. He couldn't think of a better title than "Still Life: Vase With Twelve Sunflowers". Tsk tsk. Total lack of creativity. He will never be famous in his lifetime. And his other paitings have very descriptive titles, too. Maybe because he thought, without those descriptive titles, his paintings would never be understood. |
That guy wasn't entering a challenge though, was he? Imagine the challenge was called "sunshine" and he titled it just to give voters a clue about his thinking so he didn't get DNMCed. That's what I think the OP is hinting at: title as differentiator and label is one thing. Title as major contribution to the creativity of a piece is something different. |
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02/07/2011 01:59:27 PM · #27 |
Is it just me, or is this thread full of bizarre suppositions?
NOTE: Not necessarily related to whatever comment precedes this one. |
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02/07/2011 07:58:22 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by ubique:
This could be the start of something big! We could also have books without titles, movies without titles, and songs without titles. |
Point taken. I actually do appreciate other people's titles, but hate coming up with them on my own. I usually point out the obvious or echo words that appear in the image. Any attempt by me to wax titularly poetic comes off sounding corny (see?).
Acutally, I like  posthumous' suggestion of an untitled challenge. |
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02/07/2011 08:25:18 PM · #29 |
titularly poetic... I was prepared to get a little frisson, but then I found this:
"Titularly - Definition ...bearing a title derived from a defunct ecclesiastical jurisdiction" |
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02/07/2011 09:13:40 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
A title is something an artist can use or not use, like anything else. I think it's fine to have an "untitled" challenge... or a challenge where everyone must use the same title... |
I actually thought that Sentinel was the latter... oops. |
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02/07/2011 10:47:50 PM · #31 |
| i think this is a neat idea. maybe the best way to do it would be to 'hide' the titles until after the challenge. yeah, that would take some coding, but it would also allow the images to have titles that could be enjoyed afterward. |
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02/08/2011 03:35:06 AM · #32 |
Screw this! Without a title I would have to rely on photography skills.
Originally posted by citymars:
Is it just me, or is this thread full of bizarre suppositions? |
That's the title I would use if we have this challenge.
Originally posted by ubique:
I suppose we could really push our creativity and have a challenge with titles but no pictures. |
NOW we're thinking out of the box! I'm in. ...and still I would use the title mentioned above. |
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02/08/2011 05:37:55 AM · #33 |
This is an interesting thread. In spite of my couple of earlier dismissive posts in it, I do appreciate the point that the OP makes, and I support the call to try a challenge sans titles, just to see how it works out.
It doesn't suit me personally because (a) I think that titles (even groan-inducing ones) are a window into the photographer's mind that I enjoy peeking through; and (b) I personally enjoy playing games with titles on my own stuff, testing who might make the sometimes obscure connections that I contrive.
I'm sustained in this by my belief that there is no such thing as DNMC. How could I know what's in the mind of the photographer? I figure that if I don't see the connection to the challenge theme it is my problem, and not the photographer's.
In the latest free study, my entry had a sort of multi-layered but one-word title, and only posthumous burrowed all the way down. The picture scored 4.6 and finished 281/300. But I don't think it would have done nearly that well without the cunning title, which seems to validate the OP's point I suppose.
Message edited by author 2011-02-08 05:40:45. |
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02/08/2011 09:13:07 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by ubique:
I don't think it would have done nearly that well without the cunning title, which seems to validate the OP's point I suppose. |
It's my belief that every work of art has a *context*, which can also be called "whatever the viewer happens to know." For example, a dog might not have the same reaction to a naked body that a human would. We are constantly using objects in photos that are packed with cultural meaning, like guns, windows, hands, etc. and even something as basic as darkness vs. light is filled with symbolism that viewers bring to it.
The fact that your title added more context to the piece doesn't detract from it. Your photo stepped up to the challenge of the title, just as any art will work (or not work) within the context of who's viewing it. |
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02/08/2011 12:39:31 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
There was this guy who once did a still life painting of a vase with twelve sunflowers. He couldn't think of a better title than "Still Life: Vase With Twelve Sunflowers". Tsk tsk. Total lack of creativity. He will never be famous in his lifetime. And his other paitings have very descriptive titles, too. Maybe because he thought, without those descriptive titles, his paintings would never be understood. |
Although subject, colors, and saturation were strong, it was somewhat out of focus, so it would have probably finished in the bottom 10% in a DPC challenge.
I seem to remember a challenge where Langdon slipped in a photo by H.C.B. one of the early photography icons, and it bombed in voting.
I would enjoy seeing an " (insert challenge subject,) Untitled" challenge, to see how the images would do without the title.
The photographers could put the title in the "photographer's description" box so we could only see them after roll over if we wanted to go back through the images to find out what
the titles would have been.
Message edited by author 2011-02-08 12:40:33.
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02/08/2011 12:42:56 PM · #36 |
I repeat the idea of having the challenge be "tell a story". If you're supposed to tell a story with the picture, it seems appropriate to not have a title to help it along. :)
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02/08/2011 01:00:54 PM · #37 |
| cool idea, i always battle with titles :) |
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02/08/2011 02:28:56 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I seem to remember a challenge where Langdon slipped in a photo by H.C.B. one of the early photography icons, and it bombed in voting. |
It got a 10 from me.
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02/08/2011 03:36:29 PM · #39 |
I absolutely love the DQ notice on his other one:
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02/08/2011 03:44:51 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I absolutely love the DQ notice on his other one:
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That was me :-) My idea anyway, and Langdon asked me to pick the shot for the challenge :-) It was so much fun...
R. |
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02/08/2011 03:48:55 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by vawendy:
I absolutely love the DQ notice on his other one:
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That was me :-) My idea anyway, and Langdon asked me to pick the shot for the challenge :-) It was so much fun...
R. |
The DQ notice is classic! And what a fun idea. :)
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