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01/12/2011 05:49:29 PM · #1 |
| Is it possible to use a photo as a background element in a challenge? |
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01/12/2011 05:57:07 PM · #2 |
Possible, but not as a major part or subject. This one was DQ'd awhile back:
And others have been as well. I think the rule of thumb is that you must NOT fool the voters into thinking the photo is not a photo. Much debate about this in the past. |
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01/12/2011 05:57:41 PM · #3 |
Yes, but it is "dangerous territory" because of the subjective nature of the "artwork rule"* -- see these entries for the Spam and Light on White IV challenges for examples of how this rule can be differently-interpreted:
 
* You May: include images that are clearly recognizable as existing artwork when photographing your entry. Images that could be mistaken for real objects in the scene may also be included, but must not be so prominent that voters are basically judging a photo of a photo. |
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01/12/2011 06:28:26 PM · #4 |
But they can also work... |
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01/12/2011 06:35:43 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Yes, but it is "dangerous territory" because of the subjective nature of the "artwork rule"* -- see these entries for the Spam and Light on White IV challenges for examples of how this rule can be differently-interpreted:
* You May: include images that are clearly recognizable as existing artwork when photographing your entry. Images that could be mistaken for real objects in the scene may also be included, but must not be so prominent that voters are basically judging a photo of a photo. |
The rule is more generous than the voters. I hope they try to learn the rules! |
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01/12/2011 07:11:20 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by marnet:
The rule is more generous than the voters. I hope they try to learn the rules! |
Bwahaaaahaaaaaa! Good one, marnet. |
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01/12/2011 07:14:04 PM · #7 |
| The voters had nothing to do with it -- just some SC members believing young asian women would actually dance around in a public park dangling bundles of two-foot slabs of processed meat ... :-( |
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01/12/2011 07:48:40 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The voters had nothing to do with it -- just some SC members believing young asian women would actually dance around in a public park dangling bundles of two-foot slabs of processed meat ... :-( |
Some? Those decisions were unanimous (except for you, of course). |
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01/12/2011 07:53:25 PM · #9 |
As I understand it the voters should not be bothered about that, and SC will only be involved if my photo made it to Top 5. No danger of that happening any time soon! ;/
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01/12/2011 09:02:27 PM · #10 |
Actually, voters & non-voters can request validation on any image during the challenge. The top 5 is validated after the challenge is over....I do believe....
Originally posted by marnet:
As I understand it the voters should not be bothered about that, and SC will only be involved if my photo made it to Top 5. No danger of that happening any time soon! ;/ |
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01/12/2011 09:07:28 PM · #11 |
validated |
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01/12/2011 11:44:59 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
validated |
Validated because it didn't fool anyone into thinking it was not a photo of a photo (except Slippy, but he didn't say anything publicly). |
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01/12/2011 11:51:01 PM · #13 |
| yes, but is successful example of using photo background, for reference |
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01/13/2011 10:30:07 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The voters had nothing to do with it -- just some SC members believing young asian women would actually dance around in a public park dangling bundles of two-foot slabs of processed meat ... :-( |
Some? Those decisions were unanimous (except for you, of course). |
Well, they were completely unanimous because I don't vote on my own entries -- though I (obviously) still disagree. |
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01/13/2011 12:46:15 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by marnet:
As I understand it the voters should not be bothered about that, and SC will only be involved if my photo made it to Top 5. No danger of that happening any time soon! ;/ |
You understand wrong. I have had images shift a full point in votes received before and after validation. In my experience the closer you sail towards a rule, the more voters will decide to vote you down because they believe you have violated a rule. Which is rather ironic since the rules clearly state that if they suspect a rule violation they are supposed to vote as if the image was legal, but report a suspected violation to the SC.
But don't let how the voters will react keep you from entering anything you like. |
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